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Yes. I've read what you wrote. And I've read what both of you wrote. IE: I read the thread. He never once hollered about the BLM protests. That you brought into the discussion yourself.

@Moolk said (and this is what you specifically responded to while deleting the rest of his post): "and no doubt some of the more uninformed posters will try to make a comparison between that and the minor Jan 6th riot."

He was talking about singular events.

You then said: "A rioter gets killed, 140 police officers get injured, and you call it a minor riot? To me that's just insane."

You have a couple more exchanges talking about minor riots and deaths, injuries etc

Then @Moolk says: "That’s been par for the course for years, see blm. Fiery but mostly peaceful lmao."

To which you respond: "Oh, you didn't think those were very significant, and just minor riots?"

You two then get into a back and forth for a couple of posts basically saying "nuh uh!" to each other. After those few posts is when you brought in all protests of the BLM and compared it to 1 riot.

You: "2000 officers were injured in the roughly 8700 BLM protests in the weeks following George Floyd's death (https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/...cle_db673920-34ab-11eb-9431-a3e24704f86a.html). That's roughly 1 injury every 4 demonstrations. So by that metric, the capitol riot was 560 times more violent than the average BLM demonstration/riot (according to the link, most were peaceful, about 7% were violent). I can't find collated numbers for deaths, but to be simply as violent as the capitol riot, there would have to be 8700 deaths. Do have evidence for that? I presume not - I think we both know that number is way too high. So it's hard to argue against the evidence suggesting that the capitol riot was far more violent than the BLM protests, at least in terms of human injury. So if 1/6 was a 'minor riot', the BLM protests were presumably little scuffles, yes?"

You are the one that started talking about protests. You are the one that started with a skewed result. Not Moolk. He kept it to riots. He never once said anything about the BLM protests themselves. He just talked about the riots. He compared all the riots from the Right side of the aisle to all the riots on the left side of the aisle. You included all riots and all protests.

 

No, what you did was take a single data point, a single day, and compared it to the average of the whole year.

 

Which is also perfectly possible - is today hotter than an average day or not?

 

Who mentioned BLM first? Moolk in post 8

 

BLM protests? You did. BLM Riots? Moolk did. "Fiery but mostly peaceful lmao." is referencing riots. Or more specifically a riot that CNN was reporting on but called it a "fiery but mostly peaceful protest". But it was a riot. Not a protest. CNN was trying to cover and minimize the riot that was happening.

 

Says you. He just said BLM. But fine: 7% of the 8700 protests were violent according to the link I posted. Call that roughly 600. 2000 injuries equates to less than 4 injuries per riot.

 

And deaths? And property damage? Remember, you two were talking about that also. 47 deaths alone. An estimated $1.2 billion in property damage (doesn't include stolen merchandise). And that was just between May and September. The rioting continued well beyond that.

Edit note: I accidentally put "police deaths". That is just deaths in general that are linked to the riots.

 

I acknowledged both of those in the thread. I mentioned the difficulty of finding collated statistics for deaths (could there have been as many as 600 deaths in those BLM riots to be comparable with the capitol riot? I don't know). I also said that property damage was its own issue, and more than once I clarified I was talking about violence in terms of bodily injury. Overall it's obvious the BLM protests had a far greater impact on human health than the capitol riot. But was there a single BLM riot as violent as the capitol riot? Looking at the statistics it seems pretty unlikely. So I object to the characterisation of the capitol riot as a 'minor riot' unless the person who says that is willing to acknowledge that the BLM riots were less violent, at least in injury terms, taken one by one.

Actually in the end this has been an interesting discussion, to see how mutual incomprehension can spring out of a small misunderstand at the start - in this case, what 'blm' meant in its context. I never had the feeling you were trying to be partisan about it. I think we're slightly more on the same page now, if not in complete agreement? Or at least you see what I was getting at?

 

dupe again. Bloody browser!

 

You objection to the use of the word "minor" to describe the 1/6 riot is, imo, a legitimate objection. It wasn't minor. At all. My main objection to what you posted was just in how you were trying to point out to him that it wasn't a minor riot, it was bad math and false equivalency.

However I also understand where he is coming from. Those on the left treated the riots from BLM as if they were minor and no big deal. ala CNN's description of one riot as "Fiery but mostly peaceful protest". Even to this day they deny that those riots were a big deal and act as if what happened on 1/6 was Armageddon. I believe that is what he was trying to point out when he said "minor". At least that is my take on what he posted.

Frankly I think both sides are being stupid in this. ALL of the riots were major in my book. ALL of them were equally reprehensible. And they ALL need to STOP. We're supposed to be beyond this stupid crap and there is no excuse for it. Period.

 

I agree with all of that. I actually didn't know that quote was from CNN. Yes, that's insane. Well, I appreciate the civility, and honestly, I learned something from this. So thanks.

 

You're welcome.

 

Actually, it is not about either riot(s), it’s about dual Justice, and disparate treatment.

 

lmaoooo

thats not a 1 for 1 comparison at all.

Look, you started with a false premise and a POOR understanding of mathematics and created an argument that made no sense.

You can keep flailing trying to save face, but there is no more to save. Get over it, learn from it.

 

Ofcourse you didnt lmao. Pay more attention, learn, research, then discuss.

Otherwise you end up doing what you did earlier in this thread and end up looking silly as hell.

Fact is, it was a minor riot on Jan 6th. If you wanna do a real comparison, then compare a 1 to 1 with any of the BLM riots that resulted in atleast 1 death and its not even close. BLM killed more in singular riots, injured more, damaged more, stole more etc. Yet you wanted to dilute it with every event that BLM has engaged in while ignore every event Trump supporters have. Your point was lost in this absolute terrible mathematics fail.

 

I am so sure you are smiling.

That being said, I do hope you learned something.

 

False, both objectively have an effect on reducing the effects of flu like symptoms, which are the symptoms the coronavirus give and are the symptoms which kill. I am not surprised you didnt know this, but regardless I humbly suggest you do your own research so that you dont say objectively incorrect things like you just did in the future. The left was convinced ivermectin is horse dewormer and fell for the fake news, as they always do. They hated on HCQ despite its proven effectiveness at relieving flu like symptoms, and is being used this very moment and has been for decades simply because Trump mentioned it. The irrationality of the left when it comes to Trump has caused them to do this on multiple occasions.

False, never happened. That is your purposeful misrepresentation of events. infact Trump told them to go in peace and love.

Thats a left wing thing, but i suppose you can be wrong if you want.

Every word you have heard has been misrepresentation fed to you by CNN.

You dont know the mass sick out? not surprising given how little you know about the other topics here. I am not spoon feeding you anything, do your own research.

 

Dang, you are pretty uninformed and full of left wing propaganda and it appears you have not done any research. Look up Uttar Pradesh region of India’s success using Ivermectin. It’s been known for a decade that it is a strong anti-viral medication. Uttar Pradesh kicked Covid to the curb and makes the US look like stupid pikers.

Follow the money.