Trump: ‘Republicans will not be voting’ if 2020 fraud isn’t ‘solved’

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  1. Bowerbird

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    No! I found a ballot that proves fraud

    upload_2021-10-17_1-38-27.jpeg

    See! There were millions of these all over the country

    sad part is this is no less of a fake than Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate and look at how many fell for that!
     
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    Republicans keep saying this is about election integrity. They say fraud happens on both sides of the aisle, but ask them how many audits have been done in counties Trump won. And those same republicans who wanted to de-certify the results had no issues certifying republicans wins that were on the same, fraudulent ballots. Yet, they wonder why no one takes them seriously.
     
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    ALL of us and YES states are responsible for elections NOT the federal government.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Fraud is fraud and BOTH sides engage in it. And parties play just as important a role in local and state elections and local and state politics, you really didn't know that?
     
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    How much fraud does it take to change the out come of an election?
    In the 2000 Presidential election just 238 fraudulent votes in one state could have changed the outcome.
    In Virginia 2016 which part would control the statehouse could have been determined by ONE fraudulent vote.

    The "fraud doesn't matter because it is miniscule" is a leftwing canard. There are hundreds of close elections all across this country every year.
     
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    You said those two links were examples of democrats cheating, but no where did it state they were democrats. Do democrats AND republicans cheat? yes.

    But why have all the audits been focused on counties that Biden won? Why not find irregularities in red counties to fix the system?
     
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    Right wing ideology isn’t the same as right wing fascism and extremism. That 2/3rd number isn’t close on that scale.

    And liberals and moderates may not own as many weapons as these fascists but we are armed. And typically younger with higher disposable incomes and more education.

    There is no way to convince these 50M people — they do not care for transparency or legitimate elections or you would see them irate over what happened with the stolen seat in FL or the events in NC. They would be pushing for a national voter ID with automatic registration and communication between states. They just want to win. They cannot be reasoned with and we should not try.
     
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    30 some votes is all it took for Republicans to steal an election in FL in 2020.
     
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    Yea and in FL a close race was affected by electoral fraud in which a republican won. You want to guess what Republicans did to remedy the issue?
     
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    I am fine with my state laws on election.
    So we is not me.
     
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    Wow, talk about swallowing the big lie.
    But perhaps you have proof no other has found.

    See, proof is the 1st step.
     
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    Regardless;

    NONE of that does anything to PROVE the Wild-Eyed, Absurd, and Delusional Perception that there was MASSIVE Fraud (on a level involving "hundreds of thousands or millions of votes") foisted upon us by the Trump/Lindell Tinfoil hat crowd.

    What follows is the obvious problem.

    Speaking of a "canard"--Many of the RW/GOP are trying to use a ludicrous "argument" that goes something like this:

    "Yo Man, in 2010 a Dogcatcher Election in a town of 900 people (in which 600 people voted) was decided by "Proven Fraud".

    The Winning candidate won 301-299 (and later on it was determined that 3 "Fraudulent Votes" were cast for the Winning Candidate).

    Thus, "Election Fraud affected the outcome".
    Thus, "Election Fraud Exists"

    Thus, Trump's Claim about the "Election being "stolen" because of Fraud" gotta be true.


    ^The above italicized portion is the textbook example of:
    A Break from Reality and Complete Delusion
     
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    Fake News. Republicans are working to make it Easy to Vote, but, Hard to Cheat.

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    Tell me do you think the ONLY election that is of any importance is for the Presidential electors?

    Which party would control the Virginia Statehouse in 2016 could have been decided by ONE SINGLE fraudulent vote.

    The entire 2000 Presidential election came down to this

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    A difference of just 537 votes. In the county next to mine in Florida there are 79 voting precincts, there are 67 counties in Florida so that makes an estimate of 5,300 voting precincts. So just ONE fraudulent vote in just 10% of the voting precincts could have changed the outcome of who would be elected the President.

    Now we can work our way down from there through the Congressional, then the statewide offices governors and legislators etc, to the county commissioners and the Sheriff and other officials and the the city council and mayor and all the DA's and Judges and ALL they myriad of elections held in this country some with small turnouts and very close results.

    So yes let's dispense with this canard that voter fraud doesn't matter because is has to be "widespread" and is "miniscule".
     
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    So you oppose these Democrat attempts to take over state elections and dictate to them how they will be held?
     
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    Sure.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-gerrymandering-2021/

    It's not just in Texas.

    There is a desire to overrepresent counties in favor of white Republicans in virtually every state governed by a conservative.

    But I've got news for you: it's a losing proposition.

    The Democratic majority is getting bigger and bigger, and even the most aggressive gerrymandering won't close the gap.
     
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    I will not wait 2 hours in line to vote

    Efforts are made repeatedly in the major democratic cities to make it harder to vote in person unless you are willing to wait in a long line. In the rural areas that are less populated, voting lines are less of an issue

    When I see Republican controlled state legislatures adding more polling locations to cities such as Philadelphia, Atlanta, Detroit, then maybe I will believe the BS that they want to make it easier to vote.
     
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    Fake News. The most partisan districts in the nation are Blue districts, drawn by Democrats.

    California 13 D+40 Democratic
    New York 13 D+40 Democratic
    New York 15 D+39 Democratic
    California 12 D+38 Democratic
    Illinois 7 D+37 Democratic
    California 37 D+36 Democratic
    Washington 7 D+36 Democratic
    Massachusetts 7 D+35 Democratic
    California 34 D+34 Democratic
    New Jersey 10 D+34 Democratic
    New York 5 D+34 Democratic
    New York 7 D+34 Democratic
    New York 12 D+34 Democratic

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index#By_congressional_district

    An election in a D+34 district isn't an election it's a beauty contest.

    If Dems want more competitive districts, they should draw some.
     
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    Am I crazy or is this off topic? Didn't the Arizona experience teach us how misguided Trump's fanaticism was? Trump to the detriment of the country is telling millions of his avid followers that he is the true president and undermining our democracy and elections in the process. Didn't the fact that he begged Georgia's AG to find more votes tell us how pathologically demented and self-absorbed he is. Trump is using the Republican Party as his vehicle to regain power. He doesn't care what the party stands for but it's his best option to regain power in 2024 just like it was his best option to use the party in 2016. But didn't Trump already display his obvious extreme pathological narcissism in 2016. It's hard enough to believe that people voted for Trump the first time but it's incredulous to believe that people are considering him for 2024 especially now after this demented flaming butt hole is demanding that his party not vote at until a false corruption is raked out of every pot hole, pit and pore of the body politic.
     
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    I don't see Dems taking over state elections.
    That's largely fake news.

    And nothing should be done at the federal level. It's a state issue.
     
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    Making voting more difficult is not making it harder to cheat

    Not like cheating is a major issue. Thinking so is believing a lie.
     
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    trump supporters are in fantasy land.
     
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    Properly identifying a voter before they are given a ballot is a perfectly reasonable voting integrity measure nearly universally supported by voters, including 70% of Black voters. The only ones opposed are extreme Leftists who want to preserve their ability to continue to steal elections they cannot win fairly. An accurate vote is critical to the constant self-correction that has given us the most stable and long lasting government in existence today.
     
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    You keep ignoring it was Democrats after Obama over the birth certificate. So much so they took Obama to the Supreme court.
     
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