Pelosi Says Media Should Do Better Job Selling Dem Agenda

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  1. HurricaneDitka

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    She should lay off of them. They're doing the best they can (to "sell" the leftist agenda).
     
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  2. Polydectes

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    I think the problem is the lack of relevance of the mainstream media.

    They have been biased for so long that media organizations that go after the media to expose their bias are competing with them on the same level. They just don't have the overhead costs of paying a bunch of salaries to a bunch of empty headed talking heads that think they're worth a lot more than they are.

    She's frustrated that her version of the message can't get out this is a good thing it means that she doesn't have as much control over people as she would like to and it's a good idea to keep it that way.
     
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    It's not bad communication it's accurate this was a Freudian slip.

    This representative is the same one that several years ago said we had to pass a bill so we could see what was in it. She's angry at the media for not pushing it. It's not for lack of trying it's for lack of competence.

    Remember politicians are professional liars that's what they do.
     
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    Freudian slip I could certainly believe. But it could also be just a slip. I don’t understand where everyone finds such certainty from, and how they’re not suspicious that it always aligns with their partisan interests. That’s simply not the real world.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    I'm much more suspicious than you appear to be. I'm suspicious of a person that complains because the news isn't telling people what she wants them to about the bill while years ago she said we had to vote on the bill to see what's in it.

    The thing is who are we suspicious of a confirmed liar.
     
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    A fair perspective. I’m also suspicious of people who insist on the worst partisan interpretation of something (I’m not including you in this) and refuse to engage with alternative explanations. I mean what’s the point? At that point it’s just “my dad is bigger than your dad”
     
  7. Polydectes

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    Not only am I going by history which would be foolish not to, but also what she said.
     
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    But the fact she repeats “sell” from the reporter is also important. You could argue if she said exactly what she meant, she’s pretty damn stupid to say it out loud. Did she get to where she is by being stupid? I would not be at all surprised if her attitude is what you say (a common attitude among politicians I think), but I’d be surprised if she deliberately expressed it. That’s why I’d personally go with either Freudian slip or misspeaking as I detailed earlier.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    who cares what verb she use? She was chastising the media for not pushing her bills.

    She can say push she can say sell she can say present it doesn't matter it's all the same thing
    videos do you know how long she's been where she is?
    I watched the video and I saw her do just that.

    The things she doesn't understand is it's not the media not doing it properly it's their reach.
    Well first I think it was frustration because the lap dog media aren't performing as they're supposed to according to her. It's not their fault well it is their fault that nobody watches them except for to pointing out how discredited they are. This story being a prime example. They have just simply destroyed all credibility and the only people that listen to them without the desire to expose their discredit are the Kool-Aid drinkers.

    You say you would be surprised with what she did in that video.
     
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    The key word is “deliberately” expressed. I suggest a scenario where it wasn’t deliberate in the 1st page
     
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    I think it was deliberate. It's no mystery to anybody what the mainstream media is for.
     
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    Fine. You may we’ll be right. Seems unlikely time though.
     
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    Seems very likely given the history and her not trying to get out of it by saying she was set up which is a game she plays when she gets caught doing something deliberately that she doesn't want to be caught doing.

    I guess time will tell.
     
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    I don’t think it’s a big enough story for her to refute. But on the history, you clearly know more about it than me.
     
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    It's a pretty big deal when she's fussing at the press for not being as good at propaganda as she wants them to be. The mask has slipped.
     
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    Today you are certainly right about that, but in 2001 the MSM was serving the purposes of Bush and the Neocons as they helped kick off our Global War Of Terror.
     
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    I mean it's probably not being reported enough to make her think she needs to do anything about it.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    Well relying on the media not to call her out send like more of the same issue
     
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    I don't disagree
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Thus it falls to non msm
     
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    You mean like “the election was stolen and there was massive fraud” ?

    Should they have covered that ?
     
  22. Polydectes

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    The mainstream media?
     
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    yes

    that includes Fox News
     
  24. Polydectes

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    No but they should have covered the more suspicious stuff the fact that they swept it all under the rug looks real suspicious for them.

    FYI I don't view Fox News as any different than CNN. That's a distinction without a difference.
     
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    Agreed
     

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