The Post-Pax-Americana World

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    "Post-Pax?" What is "pax?"
     
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    Ok... you are obviously not American and hate America. We get it. I will ignore you from now on. Have a nice day.
     
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    "Pax" = Latin for "peace". "Pax Romana" refers to the period when Rome ran the show and the known world was essentially (although not totally) at peace.
     
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    The post WWII era has been one of the most peaceful in human history.
     
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    Smedley Butler was a Marine. Marines prosecute their Officers for telling the truth and trying to get their leaders to be responsible for their failures. They send their honest Officers to courts martial. But I am a West Point graduate who has Commanded troops from CONUS to Europe and have combat experience from Grenada to Iraq. So I'll hold up my "perspective" to yours any day of the week.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you ignore our actions in the Americas, in Korea, in Vietnam, in Iran and the rest of the mideast and Asia, yes.

    You can ignore those actions, but I cannot. Misinformed individuals are difficult to have informed conversations with.

    AARguy

    It is wonderful to be in the presence of yet another USMA graduate. You and Mike Pompeo are such lofty individuals. :roflol:
     
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    Ok. So we supported South Korea when it was invaded by the North.. AT THEIR REQUEST. So? It was a gallant effort to respond so quickly to a request we were so totally unprepared for. Task Force Smith was literally thrown together in the emergency from whatever troops were available, mostly from our forces in Japan.

    Our actions in the Americas? Are you referring to our massive invasion of Bolivia or the hundreds of thousands of troops we sent to Paraguay? LOL

    Viet Nam was indeed an unfortunate endeavor, but we must live up to our treaties. And when South Viet Nam requested our assistance, it was our legal and moral duty to assist them under the provisions of SEATO (South East Asia Treaty Organization.)

    Your obvious hatred of the United States leads to the conclusion that you must be the tool of an enemy state such as China, Iran or Russia. Can you tel us which one? C'mon... fess up...

    Pompeo is a much younger "grad" than I. His career is amazing. A great Soldier, head of the CIA, a member of the House of Representatives for six years and Secretary of State. That makes him a lot more smarter and more experienced than I am... and I bet you too. Have YOU been head of the CIA? An Army Officer? A member of Congress or Secretary of State? No? I didn't think so.
     
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    No I'm including those actions. No major wars.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    Yes, you admire those like Bloody Mike who brags that "we lie, we cheat, we steal".

    I was commissioned at Fort Bragg in the summer of '69. Learned alot by that.

    Smedley Butler was an honest man with a conscience. Mike Pompeo is just another bot, an automaton serving the Borg. Butler at least spoke out about his sins. Colin Powell did not have the character to acknowledge his sins.
     
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    Do you mean was doesn't exist unless Congress declares it?

    Military aggression is what the US practices, has practiced, since the end of WWII. Men die, others are maimed for life, profits increase beautifully, but there ain't no war because Congress didn't declare it.

    I'm guessing you and your sidekick have not a clue about AUMF and what it entails. :lol:
     
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    You obviously are one of those bubble wrapped newbies that sees a punch in the nose as akin to nuclear war. Conflicts have happened, do happen, and will happen. But to keep the world free of MAJOR (NOTE THAT WORD) conflicts for so long, is a major accomplishment of the USA. The US does NOT practice aggression. It does, however, defend the freedom of the United States and its allies... well... until Biden abandoned Afghanistan. our citizens there, and all the equipment now brandished by the Taliban.

    AUMF is law. Congress passed it. You have a beef with LAW now, too?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you ever bother to read or study the US Constitution up there at West Point? Clearly you never learned much about Article II or Article I. Probably not Article III or any of the others.

    You are dismissed AARguy. Borg types are not skilled at adult conversations.
     
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    I am so glad that our leaders aren't so dismissive of law or so haughty as you.
     
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    Our leaders from both sides of the aisle are utterly dismissive of law. With bipartisan majorities our leaders have passed illegitimate legislation like the USA Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, AUMF and so many others that urinate on the US Constitution and the rule of law.

    Herr Biden just informed the citizenry that they need to take experimental drugs in violation of the Nuremberg Principles, law that exists that neither Herr Biden nor yourself are aware of.
     
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    Laws passed by Congress, not your opinion, defines what laws are valid and which ones are not. The Patriot Act and AUMF were passed by Congress , so they are the LAW OF THE LAND. You are entitled to your opinion, but not the power of Congress. Congress makes laws, not you. If the Supreme Court does not strike down a law passed by Congress, then it remains valid and in force, again, no matter what YOUR OPINION is.

    The vaccine mandates remain in question. Since there was no law enacted to support either side, we'll have to see what plays out in Congress and the courts. That's how democracy works. That's all spelled out in the Constitution by the way. I've read it and saw nothing at all about YOUR OPINION.
     
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    Thank you for proving, clearly demonstrating, that you know virtually nothing about US Constitutional principles, nothing about the Nuremberg Principles. You demonstrate that a typical USMA graduate is not aware of constitutional principles, and does not give a GGD about those principles. You and Mike, 2 peas in a pod.
     
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    Sorry kid. Congress MAKES the laws... not YOU. Redress can be made through the courts. If yo have a beef, see a lawyer and go to court. THAT is how our Democracy works ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION. You think whining, crying, insulting people and being generally nasty will make a difference. It won't. Go to court and stop whining. By the way, the Nuremberg Principles aren't binding... Congress never voted on it. Again... write your Congressman if you want them to. Have him/her sponsor a bill to that effect.

    Reread the Constitution. It clearly states who has the power to do what. The basic principles, however, is that Congress MAKES the laws, the Executive (President) ENFORCES the laws, and the Supreme Court INTERPRETS the laws. Its brilliantly simple.
     
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    It's not just about the United States.

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    Great post. A picture is worth 10,000 words.
     
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    Perhaps you never learned at West Point that detail in Article I Section 8, the last sentence: "To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the Foregoing Powers,..."

    To understand that, one must understand what the foregoing powers are. I doubt they spend much time on that detail at West Point, so your awkwardness in understanding is understandable. Who knows, maybe you've just forgotten. Too much exposure to uranium dust maybe.
     

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