Buttigieg on paternity leave since mid-August amid supply chain crunch, infrastructure debate

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    But I thought paternity leave was vital?

    So vital we need to make it an entitlement by government mandate, right?
     
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    There is no crisis just a lot of impatient complainers that need to stop hoarding products I think the govt. does need to ration.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The link only asserts, it offers no proof, he listened in on just some "important matters" without saying what that limits it to, it's an empty declaration.

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    "For the first four weeks, he was mostly offline except for major agency decisions and matters that could not be delegated," a spokesperson for the Department of Transportation told Politico Playbook this week. "He has been ramping up activities since then."

    He should be and should have been mostly fully involved and on the job.
     
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    I wish I could have had parental leave during my thirty seven year career of raising children for the good of America.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    Sad you think only moms spend time with kids. Im proud my sons know that isn’t how it works.
    He worked the entire time. Read your own link!
     
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    I think so, and I think if someone wants to work here and there it’s ok also.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    He was there for major decisions, and delegated as needed. Aka what every good executive does.
    Do you think McDonald’s stops serving burgers when the ceo takes a vacation? who cleans hotel rooms when trump is giving speeches?
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Why wait for the government to start rationing. You can start your own grass roots and voluntary rationing. You start out and let us know how it goes.
     
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    Not to mention sick. The guy doesn't even have a Wife. They are about as much a family as four people on inner tubes is a navy. And we're all supposed to salute as they float by. This is just absurd.
     
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    I do it's called being moderate...What with my cheap azz I can make a dollar last a week.
     
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    Have you always been an authoritarian, you refuse to let people live in freedom and be happy?
     
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    Are you seriously suggesting that those babies consume that much vodka??
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    I know of few good executives who work part time. And this is not a CEO job, it is a vital position in the United States Government, why did he accept the position knowing he would want to take off for 3 months. What if a war started and the Secretary of Defense announced he was taking 3 months paternity leave instead of being on the front lines leading or efforts to defend ourselves? Any President with any balls would demand his resignation. Why didn't Biden do so with Mayor Pete so he could put someone in that position who could be ON THE JOB and hold the meetings and travel to the areas and meet with those people and SOLVE THE PROBLEM?

    Again you make a good case to just get rid of the position if it is not needed.
     
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    Most federal agencies can function without the secretary for a little while.
    This is not a problem the federal govt can solve. What 3 months? Your link said 4 weeks and that he even worked during that!
     
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    My initial questions were:
    So you're against paternity leave then? And you also don't believe that a baby adopted doesn't belong to those who adopted them? And people only get 'leave' when one in the family actually gives birth?
    You have yet to answer them.

    But I will answer yours.
    His paternity leave - while you oppose it - is part of the family leave platform that the Dems advocate and have passed. The fact that it didn't exist when you had kids doesn't mean it shouldn't be happening. Are you against progress in general, or just when it comes to Dem policy?

    Is the entire country waiting for a solution while he is on leave? He is the head of a team/department. They are at work on the issue and he is "available 24/7 on issues that can't wait, issues that can't be delegated and major decisions." He said he stayed involved in supply chain issues.
    https://www.indystar.com/story/news...carlson-paternity-leave-criticism/8486385002/

     
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    Are you sure about that?
    His own department said he went "mostly offline".

    I wish I could go "mostly offline" from work for a month and still work the entire time.

    That's a nifty trick. How does one pull that off?
     
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    I believe in equal rights, if the moms get the time off, so should the dads
     
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    except for major agency decisions and matters that could not be delegated
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    I answered your question now answer mine

    How does Pete Buttigieg wanting to be with his child out weigh the current transportation crisis? Why does the ENTIRE country have wait until he has bonded with his child to get something done about this? If he has such a desire to be with the child then resign the post so someone else who can actually manage the job can step in. He has no RIGHT to that position in our government. Biden could dismiss him at a moments notice, why didn't he 8 weeks ago call him in and ask for his resignation if he was not going to be able to do the job and appoint someone who could?

    And sorry if I don't take his weak claim that he went online sometimes as a mitigating statement for his absence in the job that is VITAL at this point.

    Why didn't resign the position so someone could come in and run the department, they didn't even appoint an ACTING secretary.
     
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    Your questions are strawmen. Zero evidence his leave delayed any agency decisions or solutions. Quit making claims you have no proof of.
     
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    Your last line is a little precious considering the vacancies throughout Trump's reign. But that aside, I truly don't see the problem. If he is available for meetings (he attended one with Biden last Wednesday) and has been available for zoom meetings, why is his PHYSICAL presence necessary? In 2021?

    Bottom line, for me, is that you don't like the idea of parental leave and this story is just fueling your fire.
     
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    I do not foist delusions upon them or pervert that which is sacred and then expect to be honored. And it would be theft to not voice my displeasure and point out that they are sick, offensive, and a detriment to society and a free people. I will not participate in their being carried to hell in a handbasket, and go there with them. Will you? BTW, this guy is in a position to influence the passage of laws telling me how to live my life.
     
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    A week maybe, but in a CRISIS in the area of their department and for 12 weeks................that is absurd and Biden should have told him to submit his resignation that he had no confidence he could handle the job working from home as he tended his child.

    Again what in China were to attack and Austin announce he was taking 12 week paternity leave and maybe he'd take a few calls at home, would you have also have mounted your defense to the Nth degree?
     
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    According to the Biden administration it is only affecting the elite anyway and you guys always are out to get you vengeance against them.
     
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    I am suffering from a lack of hash that shortage was started under Regan.
     

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