Why should people be forced to get the vaccine in order to protect others who choose not to get it?

That is what societies do to protect the population it's been going on in the USA since it was the USA and before when the men in the Continental army received a controversial small pox vaccine and it was mandated by the CO Washington.

 

That's because they were fighting a war and all of them would have died without it leaving no military to fight the war! NOT THE SAME THING! Do you want to try again?

 

did you get the vaccine chris?

 

One shot down, one to go! Why?

 

I died right after I gotz my second shot.

 

glad to hear it

I find many talking smack about the vaccine, have already gotten it, it's odd

like they don't want others to get it, the question is why, do they not like Trump supporters?

Trump got his vaccine and did not tell his supporters until it leaked, why?

 

Talking smack about the vaccine? Is that what you think I'm doing?

Why do you only mention Trump supporters?

 

yep, sounds like it to me

tell us, why did you choose to get the vaccine?

let's hear you say something positive about it

 

Because it reduces serious COVID infection. I'm just against the vaccine mandates. I thought you were too. Obviously not.

 

What NEGATIVE thing did I say about it?

 

What a load of libertarian tosh!

 

How telling that you did not deny that you do not believe in personal responsibility!

 

But the death rate is near 100 percent sooooo...

There is that.

 

To make them comfortable. They don't seem to care that their vaccinated friends can still make them sick so they dont really fear covid. They just fear the unvaccinated.

 

Death rate of what?

 

I did not support mandates either, but TX said they liked mandates, so guess we get them, if TX doesn't support the "my body, my choice", then they should love the mandates

I also support death with dignity

 

The one being aborted

 

Death occurs to people who were born.

 

As in Texas?

 

yep

 

I've posted this issue primarily from the CDC several times.

 

A few months post vaccination the spread from the vaccinated is nearly identical to the unvaccinated. You do have to go outside of US bureaucratic organizations to see the evidence though.

I’ve done a little reading up on the latest concerning vaccine efficacy over time and transmission rates amongst the vaccinated.

First, there is a pre print on actual transmission out of the UK. Here’s Nature’s take on it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

Here is a published study in NEJM from Qatar on longevity of efficacy. Qatar has much more comprehensive testing of asymptomatics than we do so their breakthrough rates are much different.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114114

And

So current evidence shows 3-5 months after second dose, difference in transmission rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated are not significant enough to sneeze at, especially when you consider protection from asymptomatic (and all other) infection falls to 20% by month 5.

The situation in Vermont bears this out. They are the #1 state for vaccination rate at over 70%, yet are seeing the highest infection rates they have had at any time during the pandemic. Many citizens of Vermont would be well past month 5 and be transmitting at nearly the same rate as the unvaccinated because only 20% of total (symptomatic and asymptomatic) infections may actually be prevented—not the big numbers like 99% being bandied about based on (very incomplete) US data.

To be honest I’ve always expected a call for boosters and annual vaccination regardless of long term efficacy. But when I dig into the data it looks like boosters are a Hail Mary last ditch attempt at getting meaningful pandemic mitigation out of vaccination alone.

 

Do you know of any evidence to suggest that the vaccinated are more likely to get asymptomatic infection than symptomatic infection?

 

Then you should have no problem doing it again, but I have a feeling that it relates to PRE-Delta!

 

What do you mean Texas said they liked mandates? You mean the Governor?