Democratss need to think differently.

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  1. Bowerbird

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    How long has this been going on?
     
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    Don't buy any of the humanitarian catawalling it has nothing to do with that.

    Think about this. Joe Biden 81 million votes. How do you think he did that?

    This isn't about helping people it's about needing to import a voting base.
     
  3. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He got it by bribing around a third of the population. Bribed the blacks with billions in reparations. Bribed the college kids and their parents by offering to pay off their huge college loans. There are over 32 million outstanding college loans out. Bribed the Hispanics and Muslims by offering to bring in their friends and family and give them citizenship.
     
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  4. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there was a person on the Democratic ticket that I would even make me consider ever voting Democrat again, it would be Tulsi Gabbard. She seems the only one of them that makes any sense at all. But we see how those fruit cakes treated her.

    There is a lot of things I don't like about Trump and the Republicans, which tells you how much I dislike what the Democratic Party has turned into. I was a Democrat a lot longer than I was a Republican. I'm not voting for what a Party was, but what they are now.
     
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    That's actually not as controversial as one might imagine. Milton Friedman calculated that it would cheaper for the government to send every American check for the poverty line, in exchange for eliminating all social network programs (except Social Security, leave that as is) while also eliminating all poverty in the United States.

    This is a policy approach that could be presented to the American People for discussion and which may prove to have broad support. The main opposition would likely be these thousands of left wing government employees currently doling out these benefits.
     
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    And having illegals vote.
     
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    I can see the Democrats need to get together and work things out and if they're not going to get along, Then there are the Republicans that some may still under Trump's thumb which may still spell disaster either way, we could be doomed.
     
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    Well there is documentation to register, not registered can't vote.
    and there is id and a signature required beyond that so non citizens can't vote.
     
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    Yes, there is documentation that there are illegals registered to vote. Known only by an investigation by news reporters. The States they were found in did not know that they were illegal themselves.

    Not sure how you think a signature determines citizenship?

    As for ID's, remember, Democrats are against them for voting. And not every state requires them at time of voting. And there are lots of illegals using stolen/fake ID's and SSN's. Which is why I have previously proposed that we link or require that anyone that registers to vote and votes be required to provide full SSN's which are checked against the IRS database. Something that isn't done right now. If any duplicates show up then those those are to be notated and investigated by the proper authorities.
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Source it.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, if we account for costs for border patrol resulting from them hopping over, public education for their kids, hospital visits and giving birth, social programs and assistance.. do you think they are a net gain or drain?

    Honest question.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure that poster, as well as most of those that like the post, aren't even Americans.

    Super weird they get involved in our politics related to immigration. Just simply odd.
     
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    While cautioning that the reports are not a suitable basis for developing an aggregate national effect across all states, they concluded that:


    • "State and local governments incur costs for providing services to unauthorized immigrants and have limited options for avoiding or minimizing those costs";
    • "The tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to those immigrants"

    Kind of missed this points.
     
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    I agree with this... but keep in mind the social programs here provide more than they make in their home country working... not to mention we incentivize having kids here.

    All these issues need to be addressed.
     
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    Bribing is how the system is set up.
    That's why there's so much campaign bribes.
     
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    One thing the Democrats were good at all the way up until Donald Trump's election was loyalty they would stick by their candidates even if they were terrible. Now they're factioning. This happened to the Republicans too. And to appoint still is to a small degree.
     
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    Right. I think the Democrats have lost their minds, at least the political Democrats, that is. I think the country is mostly moderate, leaning a little left and a little right.

    I liked Tulsi a lot. She was an Iraq war vet and now a major in the Hawaii Army NG. She was independent. She stood up for what she believed in. She had a message of unity rather than division. She has spent her whole adult life in service to this country. She is very intelligent, articulate, and classy.

    Of course, Democrats vilified her and kicked her to the curb ...
     
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    And you fell for that garbage? First off, where did The NYT get 10 years of Trumps returns? lol
    And they forgot to tell you that $750 was the last quarterly payment of the year.
    The left is the most gullible bunch I have ever seen.
    I guess you just thought the IRS decided to turn a blind eye to Trumps 10 years of tax evasion equaling millions of dollars?
    OMG lol
     
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    Yes dems need to think differently.

    Repubs cheated in these state elections, so dems need to do the same.
     
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    Hey man, I appreciate this research, but remember that its not gonna stick w/ any of em'. If they prefered logic to fear they wouldn't be conservatives.
     
  22. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trouble is, people got to know with what they are bribing them for, there is no way to get that kind of money. Your talking trillions.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    You couldn’t be more right. The biden administration is perfectly demonstrating that right now by letting it be known illegals may be receiving $450,000 if your mistreated at the border.
     
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    He probably also believes biden hired 78,000 new irs agents to “police the ultra wealthy.”
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