flynn calls for the usa to have 1 religion

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    Mike Flynn has been in the deep end for a while. Haters hate, it's what they do when their souls are bought by the Debil. :)
     
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    Flynn lost it a long time ago.
     
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    Damn it's a SLOOOOW day around here, think I'll go peruse the Dear Abby archives. :rolleyes:
     
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    Must be off his meds . . . again
     
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    The question is how he intend to do that. I suppose that too close association of religion and government power would be always fatal to religion, because governments are always hypocrites, manipulative. It's possible that muslims are today a minority in Iran has the population is becoming more and more atheist, it's hard to tell in a country who has death penalty for apostates, but some studies suggest it. How long shia Islam survived to be the justification of Iran governement ? 50 years.
     
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    europe existed as a stable theocracy from constantine the great until about martin luthor. didn't take the feud out of feudalism, and they didn't call them "the dark ages" for nothing, but other than a few million witches, heretics, jews and muslims a good time was had by all.

    religions are always manipulative, with the added challenge that if your religious leader is infallible or speaks with god there is not much room for compromise or progress. religious power is always superior to the state.

    Road to Canossa - Wikipedia

    holy roman emperor henry iv, you may remember, was forced to kneel for 3 days and nights at canossa before the investiture powers were reclaimed by the pope.gregory vii.

    in england, similar penance was required of king henry ii even though he did not order becket's murder.
     
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    some on the right do not support the constitution obviously
     
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    the reality is, the USA is about 65% Christian, if he wants a more Christian country, he can go south of the border, they are about 80%
     
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    That's widely arguable, the pope couldn't do a lot when Philip the beautifull burned the templar. Obviously the pope had a very wide power, but it was not absolute.
    That association between religion and politics have been the norm not only during the dark ages (that on many aspects has been more a historical myth than a reality) but a norm, chinese emperors, pre islamic iranian shas, egyptians pharaos, aztec kings, roman emperor, islamic caliphs, they all have pretended to be associated in a relative manner to divinity

    But we're not in the middle age anymore, since a few century, because of the evolution of technology, our relation to politics have widely changed, what was possible during ancient times can't happen anymore.
     
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    Who is this Flynn, Michael, anyway?
     
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    "never heard of him. maybe he brought the coffee or something. " trump
     
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    And now we see the difference of how the right reacts when one of our own says something stupid
    Notice people aren’t defending him
    This is the beauty of the right. We are allowed free thinking and individuality
     
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    i have noticed that plenty of free thinkers like cheney, kinzinher, and the repubs who voted for infrastructure are being applauded by dear leader from his white house in exile. .
     
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    @

    Flynn

    Is that him?

    More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn
     
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    Yep - and any Republican that did not support Trump's election lies and voted to impeach him, I am sure would agree

    A lot of crap on the left too, but I don't see any concerted effort to "primary" Manchin, Sinema, AOC, etc
     
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    Same problem as in the other thread on this- no context. Is there a video or transcript of at least a minute or two of what he said both before and after? I havn't been able to find it yet, which leaves me suspicious that the context would dispell the narrative being pushed around this blurb.

    If not, and thats exactly what he means, then I very much oppose what he's suggesting. Im against a centralized religion as much as Im against centralized govt and for very similar reasons. But this smells very 'out of context'y to me...
     
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    there is embedded video on the linked twitter thingee in the op
     
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    it has no context, cuts out immediately after flynn says the quote, just like every other video I've been able to find.

    Im not questioning whether he said it, im questioning whether he went on to explain what he means in more detail, or if what he had been talking about previously provided context to clarify this quote. Surely he didnt just get on stage, say this, and then drop the mic. As it is, sure, it sounds bad, but its also pretty vague...
     
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