What Actually Happens When a Country Bans Abortion

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Deny it all you want - you obviously have no counter statistic and the stats on adoption do not work

    the trouble is you keep thinking that these are “naughty teens” whereas the vast majority are women in their twenties most of whom are in a relationship
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that doesn't make abortion an easier sell to pro-lifers...
    Most pro-lifers would say if the woman is in her twenties and in a relationship, then she should definitely keep the baby.
    That would be perfectly normal.
     
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    Knew you could not answer.
     
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    Republicans are not interested in the little people, you know, the poor
     
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    Still not addressing the infographic I posted

    Too real??
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're accusing Republicans of not being interested in "the little people" ???

    Lots and lots of laughs there.
     
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    Well, where are the projects that will address the root cause of abortion? This new bill that the Democrats are pushing forward will do more for reduction of abortion than all the legislation banning it.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    That is the propaganda I am talking about.
     
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    You mean your propaganda?
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    I mean the infographic

    I can post more if you like
    How about this one

    upload_2021-11-20_13-24-3.png

    Or this one

    upload_2021-11-20_13-24-36.png

    Or this one

    upload_2021-11-20_13-25-50.png
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    More denial and refusal to address the content

    ultra sad
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    What content? You mean the propaganda. Got it.
     
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    Eastern former USSR countries have had societal problems, alcoholism and have never valued life of a child as Western counties. Russia had and has a simular problem. Its not just babies being left at the orphanage. I know people in religious organizations that travel to Russia to help orphans learn to stand on their feet after they are kicked out at 16 with no help from Russian people. Countries have different values.

    Your example has nothing to do with USA. If Roe vs Wade is overturned, which it should be as it was an unconstitutional ruling, then the decisions go back to the states. Like it was pre1973. USA pre1973 did not mimic your Romania example so your argument is mute.
     
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    Actually it does

    https://www.statnews.com/2018/12/05/how-abortion-denial-affects-children-well-being/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11990636/

    https://www.guttmacher.org/journals...e-number-unwanted-children-evidence-adoptions
    https://contraceptionmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40834-021-00149-6
    It is also probable that you will get a rise in homicide rate for women if RvW is overturned

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2760408

     
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    Your "studies " which I believe are from a discredited pro abortion source, don't relate to my post. The only thing I can glean from them is that children are better off dead then unwanted by the mother and that adoptions went down as abortion went up...

    USA was never the Romania you are showcasing. So again since that is your argument ...that reversing Roe vs Wade will turn USA into Romania, your argument has already been proven wrong by fact.
     
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    What would be "perfectly normal" ?

    It isn't "normal" for strangers to tell others if they should have a kid or not...in fact, that's really kinky weird...a mental illness actually
     
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    There is no killing for the greater Good argument with respect to abortion... you are way off the farm. The Abortion argument is one of essential liberty .. aka "individual liberty" - the complete opposite of a utilitarian harm reduction argument "Whats best for the collective" with no regard for the individual .. hence why such are an anathema to the founding principles - republicanism .. constitutional republic..

    So on a scale of 1 to 10 .. Less than Zero .. a complete fail .. showing not only your inability to make a valid argument . .. so Zero on the test for that .. . but- at the same time showin complete lack of understanding of Republicanism .. and founding principles --- which puts you in the negative department .. nowhere to go but below zero .. a deficit .. ..
     
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    Oh I see. Much like slave owners claimed slavery was really about "states rights"......
     
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    Nothing to do with slavery or states rights .. nor the number of craters on the moon for that matter. This has to do with your made up nonsense about folks being pro abortion for the greater good.

    What is this greater good .. and what does it have to do with slavery or states rights .. or craters on the moon ?
     
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    Looks like I struck a nerve. Explain how I said it had anything to do with slavery. I didn't. I am merely illustrating how "rights" have been used in the past to justify an atrocity. Much the same as "rights" are being used to justify abortion.
     
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    What nerve .. can't make sense out of what you are saying .. and you were indeed comparing abortion to slavery.. so .. slavery has something to do with slavery does it not No idea why you were talking about slavery...

    but yes .. is an atrocity the 200 souls killed during when a child is born. What should we do to save these people ?
     
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    Comparing and saying the two are somehow connected are different things. You are doing alot of obfuscation for some reason.
     
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    I didn't say slavery and abortion were connected .. Was you who have been ranting on about slavery.

    But what about the killing of these 200 children that you condone .. with every birth .. any are you obfuscating ... avoiding this atrocity ... you dehumanizing these children .. like slavery and the Nazi's did to the Jews -- this was the comparison you made.. for the killing of the one ..pretending to care .. when you don't care at all about the deaths you support.
     

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