What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

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    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

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    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

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    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

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    5.8%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Wow, not even an ATTEMPT at a response! These are side issues which have come up. Don't pretend that they are related to the 'abortion enforcement' side of the debate. That side of the debate is in the other post which you have dodged! In summary, you have yet to explain how believing that elective abortion should be illegal, would be forcing YOUR beliefs onto others. You have also failed to explain who exactly would be forcing their beliefs onto others abortion became illegal!
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More dodges and diversions. Please describe how you would use government to enforce abortion laws.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you first and instead of answering, you used diversions to dodge. Answer my question first and then I will entertain your diversions.

    At this point, one single question has you stumped.
     
  7. chris155au

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    You are confused. I have already repeatedly answered the question, and you would be able to back track to my response from this post which you STILL have not responded to: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-on-abortion.580016/page-139#post-1073074232
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you first and instead of answering, you used diversions to dodge. Answer my question first and then I will entertain your diversions.

    At this point, one single question has you stumped.
     
  9. chris155au

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    Again, you are confused. You seem to believe that I haven't ALREADY repeatedly answered the question. You would be able to back track to my response (using upload_2021-11-20_19-6-25.png ) from this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-on-abortion.580016/page-139#post-1073074232
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did not. Your link leads to post #3440. One simple question and your position crumbles. If you decide to think your position through, let me know.

    Abortion laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society.
     
  11. chris155au

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    Yes, which challenges your medical tourism argument. You've already said that not everyone would be in a position to do medical tourism! :roflol:
     
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    They're trying to have the best of both worlds.

    "Making abortion illegal won't stop it"
    But at the same time... "Making abortion illegal would be devastating to women"
     
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    Yep, just like murder being illegal doesn't stop murder! So I guess we should decriminalise murder!
     
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    Don't forget that making rape illegal sometimes results in the death of women.

    I guess we should decriminalize it...
     
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    I believe that if abortions had been performed on most of the present GOP Congress and Senate’s mothers, the world would be a much better place. What the hell were their parents thinking? I also believe that there should be huge billboards posted in places in inner city drug havens, and country meth centers offering meth head, crack heads, junkie women and pill heads $500 and a sack of their favorite drug from the police property room in exchange for being permanently sterilized. In the long run it would save us all a lot of money and trouble. We need to start being more sensible.
     
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    What a ridiculous thing to say. Would you care to motivate that?
     
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    It was obviously biting sarcasm.
     
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    Oh! Sorry. I missed it. :smile:
     
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    Correct. Those with money for a ticket are immune to your proposed laws, leaving only the poor to find more affordable methods, that still render your proposed laws useless. Abortion laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society. You have been unable to address the short list of challenges that render abortion laws useless.

    Not only do abortion laws fail these simple challenges, they do more harm than good as the true number of abortions would be hidden from view. If reducing the number of abortions was your goal, wouldn't knowledge of how many are being performed be important? Did you know that abortions are already declining without government interference?

    Meanwhile, those with a genuine concern are stepping up and making a real difference.
     
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    There is no contradiction in those two quotations.

    Abortion is a very good thing.
     
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    AGAIN, murder is illegal because not being illegal would cause chaos in society...

    Abortion does NOT cause chaos in society
     
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    What TF is wrong with those two statements....they are both true....
     
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    Why would they be rendered useless? Because the laws would not be able to stop every single abortion?
     
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    You could not demonstrate how the laws would stop a single one. They would only drive the true number of abortions out of view. Just because something is not documented, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
     
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    How would someone get an abortion if they can't do medical tourism?
     

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