Is Atheism a logical belief?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Oh so someone who disbelieves in G/god(s) does not lack belief in G/god(s) then huh? :confuse:
     
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    One saying god doesn't exist at all, another says I don't believe in god is two different viewpoints since the first one says none exist while the second one says I have no belief in god which doesn't say god doesn't exist.

    I have been Atheist for over 31 years now and for most of the years before that just indifferent to religion in general.
     
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    cite where 'worship' is a requirement wil.
    The decision no God exists a completely different self direct path than one who agrees that God exists wil.
    So you are not able to connect such simple dots?
    It has everything to do with it, atheists believe God does not exist because it has no material substance wil, both are supernatural.

    So its ok to reject God because God cannot be proven to exist and accept faeries, both of which exist in the supernatural realm.

    atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence.

    Atheism | Definition, Philosophy, & Comparison to Agnosticism


    Seems there are massive holes in your atheology wil
    But it is to many, part of their religion, tell a middle easterner they have to eat pork and see what happens to you LOL
    Do I need to resort to crayloas wil? Atheists claim that no God exists and is based entirely in 'faith'.
    Tough following simple trains of thought?
    You claim you can falsify the BIG Bang, then do it.
    Nows a good time to abandon responding to my rebuttal LOL
     
  4. Kokomojojo

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    I could care less if you had 10,000 generations of atheists, if you reject that God exists you lack belief in God. thats not logic 101, that logic 001
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    So you say "God does not exist", and also want to claim it has nothing to do with your position (ie: belief) in reference to the existence of God, is that it? Seriously?
    If you claim god does not exist, and you claim that you believe God does not exist, that is purely semantic. Be careful when you accept the birds theories, someone could have a full time job just cleaning up all that spam.
    semantics, not possible to prove otherwise, but dont let that stop anyone!
     
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    I think you are trying to lead to what an agnostic might believe.

    It's true, I think, that an agnostic doesn't hold a specific opinion on whether a god exists.
     
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    Im agnostic wil, NO that is not true, and as an agnostic I have a very definite opinion on the existence/nonexistence of God. Agnostics even have religion just like every other human not in a coma.
     
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    There isn't just one criterion. There are a number. They include how an individual makes decisions, how the acknowledge this god they believe in, etc. Religion is about the acts of that acknowledgement.
    Well, atheists can have well developed philosophies that they follow.
    I don't believe so.
    Following a religious proscription for certain foods is NOT homeopathy.
    Not believing something doesn't make it a religion.
    The Big Bang is falsifiable.

    That doesn't mean that I have the education and equipment to do so.

    Science isn't all about me or any other single individual. In fact, Einstein's theory of relativity was first assaulted by physical evidence by people other than himself, as he didn't have the equipment!
     
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    I'm fine with you having any religious belief you desire.

    In fact, I really doubt there are that many atheists in this world, as most atheists think enough that they recognize that there is no proof of a god NOT existing.
     
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    Where are you getting that from? Nobody here said that.
     
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    Nice contradiction to the lacker claim and admission of faith ie religious atheists wil!
     
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  12. Kokomojojo

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    What are they? Sure if you first 'believe' its cold out then you will 'decide' wear something warm.
    right acknowledgement of the belief.
    Yeh so do believers, your point?
    So you disagree with pisa then?
    Sure it is. Lots people cure things through change in diet wil
    Of course it does, you acknowledge and act upon your disbelief, you just admitted that wil
    Then neither do you have the education to make that claim.
     
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    That's not necessarily homeopathy. Science based medicine can call for changes in diet, and following such medical direction can not be considered homeopathy. Plus, those who don't eat pork for religious reasons aren't doing that to cure something. They're doing it out of respect for their religion.
    Not that old nonsense again!! Yes, I act on my beliefs. But, my beliefs don't include a god.
    lol - sorry, it doesn't work that way.
     
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    what is the purpose of a jealous, vengeful God?
     
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    The only amendment in the Bill of Rights that everyone consistently observes is the 3rd Amendment. All of the others are routinely ignored.
     
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    You dont buy your diet through a pharmaceutical company wil, so I need to see a citation on that!
    It cures by ruling out the possibility of contracting trichinae wil
    Stop bringing the same **** up if you dont like it man.
    Yep same old nonsense al right. Right back to waiting on you show that a G/god is a requirement for religion.... Look above you abandoned responding to the same rebuttal I made previously wil. Gonna answer it this time or continue to post that same nonsense?
    It most certainly does wil. simply put its not possible to identify and defend what you think is an error in a math problem if you dont understand math wil Sorry it does work that way.
     
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    Why does an atheist disavow the existence of god(s)?
     
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    The life, immortality, and eternal life of man.
     
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    Probably due mostly to the abundance of fakes, quacks, and lack of proof.
     
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    Atheists should be consistent and disavow racism in America for the same reason they disavow the existence of god(s)...Because there's no proof.:roll:
     
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    don't need a Jealous Vengeful God for that
     
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    Actually you need that and more. You just didn't include it.
     
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    So you ARE saying there is no proof racism exists at all in America? Really? Or do I not understand you?

    We can prove racism exists. Just talk to Richard Spencer or any other random self admitted racist.

    And what was with all the "quantify" it stuff? You don't need to fully quantify something for it to exist or be heinous.

    This derail about race you are doing has nothing to do with theism or atheism.
     
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    You couldn't have life, immortality and eternal life of man with a God that isn't jealous and vengeful? Why not? How does it hinge on the jealousy and vengefulness?
     
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    that sounds more like an attempt at terrorism, the guv of the time maybe?
     

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