Moscow -US Testing Ability To Drop Nukes On Russia

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  1. AARguy

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    It will already be done. You are talking about us RETALIATING. That means they have already attacked. Destroying them accomplishes nothing but the trip to PARADISE... THEY WANT.
     
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    We are able to strike first if the President thinks they need to be taken out.
     
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    There is no imaginable scenario where we would strike first. If there was... we would have when we would stand a chance.
     
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    If nothing else, if Iran continues to build illegal nuclear weapons Israel will bomb them conventionally to prevent them from succeeding.

    But I think the US would also bomb Iran conventionally to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons.

    And if the President ever had intelligence that Iran was about to launch a WMD strike against the US, I am sure that he would be willing to launch a nuclear first strike in order to prevent it.
     
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    First, Iran's nuke facilities are all deep underground and difficult to pinpoint. Second, it is doubtful that Iran would use missiles. The scenario currently bouncing around the Pentagon is ships. Commercial ships. Flagged in various countries. Imagine 50 or so ships (there are thousands at sea at any given time) pulling into our east and west coast ports in a short period of time with a nuke in each one. (We would have no way of knowing before they are unloaded and about 3% of cargo is actually inspected.) At a prearranged moment... BANG! On both coasts simultaneously.
     
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    Wow...another RT rag of a news article.....maybe I should start collecting....use it for a$$wipe or clean up oil drips in my workshop. :))
     
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    We know where they are. Iran's facilities aren't all that deep. Israel knows where they are too.
     
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    That is simply not so. No more Rambo movies for you. We can't see through hundreds of feet of earth, believe me. By the way, I have some credentials in this area. I am a West Point grad (Lloyd Austin is my classmate) and I spent a couple of decades in uniform. After that I worked in high tech defense for guys like Lockheed and Boeing. Although I am fully retired now I still consult on a few military programs. So take my word for some things.
     
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    It is so. Iran has only built shallow bunkers that were pinpointed by satellite before they were covered over with earth.
     
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    The Iranians are Shia, and I don't know of them being terrorists. The extremists are usually Sunnis from the Gulf states. I know the Palestinian families were given money, depending on how many people were killed during a suicide attack.

    I think Arafat picked up the idea from the suicide bombings going on in Russia towards the dignitaries and government officials before the Bolshevik revolution. They averaged about 500 a year, which would be the equivalent of 1,000 mayors, senators, police chiefs, etc., being killed a year in the US.
     
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    I don't know if it's the economy, but there doesn't seem to be:

    1 - Any solution to the Ukraine/Russia problem except war.
    2 - Any solution to the Israel/Iran problem except war.
    3 - Any solution to the Turkey/Cyprus problem except war.
    4 - Any solution to the China/Taiwan problem except war.
    5 - Any solution to the Greece/Turkey problem except war.
    6 - Any solution to the Kurd/Turkey problem except war.
    7 - Any solution to the Kashmir/Pakistan problem except war.

    And it goes on and on.

    If one reads the actual news in non MSM sites, they'll notice that the animosities are getting worse with each passing day. Whoever can't foresee a world war has to be blind.

    As for the economy, it's being destroyed deliberately to bring about a one world order and government similar to the Soviet Union, but unlike the Soviet Union it will be controlled by Washington and owned by the corporations. They who own the corporations, (and there are 5 entities or families), would own our lives except that they will be hindered by the world war.
     
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    Then the cargos should be inspected before they come here. Aren't there devices that can be used to check for something like that?

    Anyway, I don't foresee Iran doing anything like that, it's not in their nature. Their problem is strictly a Muslim problem. They have the belief that Jerusalem should be under Islam. This is where I'm unable to sympathize with them - even though they are attacked by Israel just about every week.
     
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    And they really are aligned against us. Here's some of what Chinese Defense Minister Wei Fenghe said to his Russian counterpart Sergey Shoigu Tuesday:

    "And we are celebrating tremendously fruitful cooperation in all areas. Especially, standing in the face of frantic US containment and pressure, China and Russia are united together like a great mountain. Our friendship is unbreakable. Together, we countered the hegemony of the US, and we oppose the fake democratic regime of the US, the fake multi-culturalism, as well as new forms of manifestation of the Cold War. Therefore, we’ve displayed our relations as being better than allied."
     
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    When one has woke morons in charge of the military . . .

    I hope nothing happens - East Texas is a major target for Russian nukes.
     
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    If the subs can be found. If I recall correctly, wasn't there a Russian sub that disappeared about a year ago when it left Syria, and our jets were frantically looking for it in the waters around Israel. Putin told them not to worry: "The sub is okay, we're getting messages from it every day".

    I believe Russia has about 4 subs in that category. The other 3 are supposedly in the Black Sea - unless they're off our East Coast
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    The Russians are coming.

    The Russians are coming.


     
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    Yes. Russia and China will not risk their capitals. But look at the actions of a madman in Washington.
    The power in the USA was seized by madmen. The defective president goes to the hospital and transfers power to random people. This is really dangerous for the whole world.
    I believe that it is necessary to remove the crazy usurper from power.
     
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    That is dead wrong. Iran's nuke facilities are hundreds of feet below the surface with offset tunnel access to confuse any overhead observation. My data comes from official information I had access to while on active duty. Your civilian sources are woefully lacking.
     
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    I agree with your comment on corporate dominance.
    As for the hot spots on the planet that you listed, I can say that such hot spots have always been and always will be.
    For example, almost all of Africa is in a state of tribal war of varying degrees of intensity.
    But the fact is that these conflicts of local significance will not by themselves lead to a global world war.
    It is another matter if such a "small" conflict is blown up into a world problem. As it was after the murder in Sarajevo. In principle, this is how world wars begin.
    But world wars occur only when it is determined by the world economy.
    Propaganda, of course, will scream that "Russians, Americans, Chinese, Greeks ... anyone" is to blame, so we need to rally around a crazy leader .... but you all know this as well as I do. (For those who don't know, you can read the speeches of Dr. Goebbels and how he justifies the war.)
    I can only repeat - all (without exception) wars have economic goals. Even the Crusades in real life were economic, even the tribal war in Africa has economic roots (where is it better to hunt, where is the source of water ...)
    Today, in my opinion, the state of the world economy is like two peas in a pod similar to what it was before the First World War. (of course, adjusted for technological progress)
    Therefore, it remains only to find your Franz Ferdinand and your Nicola Princip.
     
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    Do you honestly think the Ayatollahs really believe all that? The True Believers get blown up early. Contrary to popular misconception old men want to keep on living more than anybody
     
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    Beyond Alpha, you're back:hiding:
     
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    Shia are as capable of being terrorists as Sunni, Yaziti and any others. Iran is the major source of "liquid copper" IED's used in the continuing terrorist war in Iraq and are the major source of funding and weaponry for Hamas. Your claim of not knowing that Iranians are terrorists is simply astounding. Iran's leadership has sworn to destroy the "Great Satan" (USA) and "Little Satan" (Israel). Again, your claim of not knowing that Iran is a rogue, terrorist nation (labelled so by our own government) is simply astounding.
     
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    Relax, Trump lost the election.
     
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    You really don't understand. Radical islamists like the leadership in Iran want to KILL INFIDELS... Jews, Americans, Germans.... ANYNE that is a "non-believer". Non-believer is the DEFINITION of "infidel" and killing infidels is the key to gain entrance to PARADISE.

    And no, there is no magical system that can see through the heavy steel walls of a ship, into the cargo hold, through the packaging and fielding and see a nuke. Were good, but we're not magical. And according to the "Cargo Cats" (the division of the LAPD which conducts incoming cargo inspections, only about 3% of cargo is actually inspected due to lack of resources.
     
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    I certainly agree with the spirit of your post!
     

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