“GOP embraces natural immunity as substitute for vaccines”

Medical Malpractice this is... Pushing this Vax on people -- that is not a Vax at all ... is a treatment - one that carries a greater risk of harm to the average person than Covid - while denying and denegrating other treatments that carry far less risk of harm -- treatments that could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

 

Wait, what? The GOP signed on to all this? Like, there was a convention or something? Also, above and beyond it looking like you're just making some of these up and ascribing them to the right, many of these have been debunked already and some of them - well -

Covid will be gone by April, then May, then June - heck, when school was dismissed way back in - March? The School board itself said we'd only be out for a couple months until it blew over. Good luck convincing me they were Rebublicans on a school board here in California.
Children have a virtual immunity to Covid - Hah! I remember when this all first started, the kids themselves were calling Covid a "Boomer Remover." Definitely wrong on this one.
hydroxychloroquine, Lysol, neon lights - What?!?

 

I don’t agree with the GOPs stance on this but I also don’t think the lefts vaccine shaming helps this any

 

What's not to agree with .. If you have had Covid - you are far more protected than if you have had the vax.. "Legitimate" studies range from 13 to 27 times better (careful for the carpy ones -eg ... those testing antibodies) references for both in previous posts.

The risk of harm from the Vax to someone who has had covid - and miraculously survived - is far greater than the risk of harm of this person not taking the vax (cause they are already vaxed far better than the vax) and getting Covid a second time.

If this person is not in Category B ( comorbs - Obese- compromized immune system) The risk of harm from the vax is ridiculously higher ..

Medical Malpractice this is .. Bad science ... ridiculously bad and fallacious use of statistics. As a scientist and subject matter expert this is particularly disturbing what is going on ... as a Social Activist - civil liberties - the use of State Propaganda apparatus to manufacture consent for this agenda is off the charts disturbing

 

I’m not equipped to reply yet. The research ive have found indicates you have more antibodies from vaccine then natural ones after having had the virus. I could be wrong so I’ll have to get back to you. It’s not like I have all these links memorized

 

Antibody testing does not help us -- folks quoting from such studies -- making conclusions - are lying ... unless they are merely reporting the number of exposures .. We want to know how many people who had covid .. got it again / showed up at the hospital.

Your T and B cells create antibodies -- natural immunity will create 20 or more different antigens/antibodies -- attack the virus at different places .. the vax produces one - attacking at one site (one or two but think its one) Natural Immunity is far more robust and longer lasting 5 years or more according to one study.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines

https://www.timesofisrael.com/study...s-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/

So .. both these studies are of people who had covid previously - actually getting it again - and/or getting it again and showing up at the hospital .. in the "Legitimate" category .. as opposed to much of the anti-body testing stuff .. that is where the "fake news" comes from -- not that all is fake news ... but this is where it is comming from if it is fake news .. and can go through some of these and show you the "WTF" moments... what you get is some website writing an article on a study .. posting results (or not) .. and completely misrepresenting the results . .. often contradicted by the data they have posted in the article.. these are stupid people .. well ... not "Stupid" but ignorant of the material they are commenting on.. Which is fine > BUT < This fake news stuff is the mainstream propaganda narrative .. being touted by the likes of Fauci - Biden Admin - Bureaucratic infrastucture ..

and thats disturbing .. what is perhaps more disturbing .. is the efforts to omit - Cancel - dismiss - the counter narrative - under the guise of protecting you from "Fake News"

Its quite Orwellian - doublespeak -- Ministry of information -- where propaganda is produced -- the folks producing the Fake news -- and touting it -- justifying censorship of the other side on the basis of "Fake News"

What is "Most" disturbing - is the denegration of treatment .. which has nothing to do with the vax ... just because one has been vaxed .. does not mean you should not also take Vitimin C and D .. and Zinc .. (coupled with tried and true home elixer -- Tea - half lemon rind and all - ceyanne pepper - Honey) if you get covid .. and if it worsens - say going into pneumonia .. antibiotics .. and if inflamation -- anti inflamitants (such as the completely safe Ivermectin - but there are others) difficulty breating give an inhaler. Standard Flue Treatment 101.

In places like "Mexico" and "India" you know .. the real advanced nations .. you got a treatment kit if you got covid .. and the resultes were very good .. as was the case in other places .. civilized nations such as Japan (hope you are getting the sarcasm)

And the reason we were not "Treating" is what ??

2 wars happen when you get The Flue - or Covid ..

1) virus vs Immune system -- weakened immune system allows bad bugs to get a foothold ( kind of like a PARASITE - hence why an anti parasitic might not be such a horrible idea - even though you are not a horse .. oh yeah..but thats right something like 3 billion doses given to humans - as anti inflamatory - anti parasitic effect -- and safe as the day is long .. ridiculously so .. ask me for one of those studies .. done by WHO - back in the 80's in Africa - 50,000 or so - Zero severe side effects --- all the small ones .. dizzyness mostly -- transitory .. meaning come and gone)

2) Pnumonia - when the bad bugs get a foothold - and the battle for your life begins .. one of the many each of us has had. Bacteria and immune system - in symbiotic relationship - fight the bad bacteria .. Think of immune system weakened as air cover weakened.

OK .. Troops more on their own .. how about we support them .. Vitimins - and home elixer which contains "Biocides" "Kill Life" if you wish the latin .. but in reverse obviously .. ceyanne .. bad bugs hate that stuff .. Honey - Alcohol - the hard stuff . another biocide .. but I don't use the alcohol .. but perhaps should try.. as the science makes sense .. and long history of this working.

If the war still goes badely . and for me was always a last resort -- never for a cold (which is bad bugs getting a bit of a foothold) never got pneumonia .. got blood poisoning once but had to take it .. antibiotic you have to or die --- got anaerobic bad bugs - sepsis --- need to kill them .. no choice .. and so you drop the nuclear bomb .. which also takes out the good bugs in high numbers along with the bad .. but what you going to do .. hence why has been standard practice .. no longer as overproscribed as they used to though ... finally figuring out that the more you give this stuff .. the more the bugs adapt .. the bad ones .. oh .. and you know what ? these viruses adapt too .. but we are talking the bacteria war .. leave that for another time.

This is medical malpractice .. these people are fkn environmental microbiological morons .. and Im not kidding .. your doctor is one for sure .. very rare would be one that is not .. and this I have known for 20 years .. now I think they may teach it .. but not much .. and anyone who isnt fresh off the boat will have absolutely no clue .

Why have we not been Treating for War #2 ? once again 9 out of 10 that die from "Covid" -- die from Pneumonia .. when the bad bugs take over ..lungs fill up with bacterial snot .. same stuff when you get a cold .. one of your defense mechanisms actually .. and you die .. and this is how all humans go .. if not from meteor or other such thing. .. even when you have cancer .. is Pneumonia that is going to take you.. it is the battle you fight your whole life.. yet ... how many times you been told to take care of your good bugs growing up ?? .. only recently do we have the "pro-biotic" movement and while a small part . not what I really mean .. those are imported good bugs .. talking about the bugs you already have 32 million per square inch of skin .. 9 out of 10 of the cells in your body .. are bacterial cells .. Now ..thank goodness .. a human cell is much larger than bacterial cell ..so volume wise you are more human than bug .. not by the numbers though .. and yes .. they matter to your overall health .. as medical science is "Just ever so recently" figuring out .. and I can go into this history .. "Rockefeller" being part of the story but goes much further back. .. you have heard of the "Davinci Code" and a fine book it is.. but in my spare time I read books like "The Germ Code" https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-g...PlhoCUMQQAvD_BwE#idiq=4642536&edition=7807385

Oh .. looks like a copy can be had for 4 bucks Talks about Nightengale - her major advancement of treatment of hospital patients - major innovation .. she opened the window ... and if you are a fan of Sting "Every Breath You take"

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...organisms-including-invisible-fungi-every-day

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger .. you need the interaction -- keeps your troops battle hardened.

 

You don't have to be a scientist to see that different groups of scientists are advising different courses of action, which indicates the science is not settled.

The mere awareness of the above is all the information one needs to look upon anyone suggesting the science is settled with distrust.

 

All I have to do is see a doctor.

 

Where? In Sweden? Doctors in Sweden say kids don't have to wear masks. For 2 years now... Are they "anti-science"?

Much of the science is NOT settled. Anyone saying otherwise should not be trusted.

 

As a note, that study is rubbish. The sample size was ridiculously small and it flies in the face of HUGE studies like the one done in Israel.

 

This is correct. The children have not been wearing masks and the teachers infection rate is no higher than the general public. Masks don't matter a whole lot in non-medical settings.

 

Much of the science is NOT settled
I suggest you not commit a crime.

 

It's difficult to commit a crime in the US with words. At least it's supposed to be.

 

Here is something about science.
https://www.livescience.com/21457-what-is-a-law-in-science-definition-of-scientific-law.html

 

Not sure what that has to do with the fact that people are making arguments, and policy, based on an appeal to authority, and that authority is science, which we seem to agree, is NOT settled, so the authority is based on a lie.

For example, within 24-48 hours of word of Omicron, countless politicians, media pundits, and doctors were saying the vaccine would still offer protection. Maybe. How could they know then (or even now)? 32 mutations from Alpha, compared to Delta's 3 (or 4?).

 

How do you get the info they don't know ??