McMichael and Bryan guilty of murder and most charges

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just in, developing story. Most of the charges, guilty, murder and aggravated assault.

    https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ahmaud-arbery-killing-trial-verdict-watch-11-24-21/index.html

    A jury has reached a verdict in the trial of three men charged in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man, as he jogged last year through a Glynn County, Georgia, neighborhood.

    The jury reached a verdict at 1:21 p.m. The verdict will be read soon in court.

    UPDATE

    Jurors found Travis McMichael guilty of murder Wednesday for chasing and fatally shooting Ahmaud, a 25-year-old Black man, as he jogged last year through a neighborhood in Glynn County, Georgia.

    McMichael now faces a maximum sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.

    Jurors convicted him of one count of malice murder and four counts of felony murder

    He has also been indicted on three separate federal hate crime charges, which include interference with rights, attempted kidnapping and using, carrying, brandishing, and discharging a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence. McMichael pleaded not guilty to the federal charges.
     
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    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    They kept telling us the justice system is completely racist:
     
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    As predicted. The standard of the law was whether the uncorroborated "act of burglary or suspicion there of" rose to the act of a felony creating the privilege of citizen arrest. Clearly the jury didn't find so, and thus all additional actions of the defendants constituted felonies of their own. Nice to see the legal system work.
     
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    Seemed like this was a clear case of murder. Kudos to the jury. Hope they remain free from harassment from various entities.

    Justice was served.
     
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    In my humble opinion, the evidence was unequivocal and justice was duly served. The last 2 high profile cases puts some faith back into the justice system.
     
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    The correct verdict was reached. IMO
     
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    I recently have an epiphany of a thought and I want to share it: The legal system does work. Now, it's suspect to abuse(because its very nature is that of a human(a judge) sitting upon a trial, where a jury(other humans) also sit in judgment of a prosecutor(whose sole purpose is to get the defendant incarcerated), and the defense lawyer(whose sole purpose is to get a not guilty verdict or the best possible verdict) hash out arguments over the facts of the case.

    In this system there's alot of inherent(and unintentional) bias. The biggest one being that we humans can sit in judgment over another human. Of course, there isn't an answer to this flawed system but maybe there will be, one day. I suppose my biggest gripe with the justice system is that impartiality by design cannot exist. Perhaps impartiality itself doesn't exist and is just an abstract concept. If that's the case then there's no problems.

    The other problem is with the concept of prison, which let's be honest: Is a glorified concentration camp. People rightly dread prison, more than being murdered. Let me repeat: I'd rather be shot to death than to spend so much as a single second in prison.(I'd rather neither of course but if given the option I'd choose death over incarceration.)
     
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    While I'm no fan of Ahmaud Arbury, I believe this to be the correct verdict, because I think 2 of them could have handled this situation differently that would have not resulted in the Death of Ahmaud Arbury. I'm still a bit confused of why William Bryan in the Truck who was filming the incident, was convicted of Murder.
     
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    A sound verdict, reached after due deliberation.
     
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    All 3 Guilty..
    Facing LIFE in Prison...
    Great work by the Jury...
     
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    Good.

    I wonder who will protest the decision.
     
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    It was the right verdict, there was no reason to shoot to kill this victim.
     
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    He didn't just film. He was also involved in the chase, apparently tried to hit Arbery with his vehicle, and blocked his escape with his vehicle.
     
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    A tragedy all the way around. Do I believe they pursued him because they wanted to kill a black guy that day? No. Do I believe they were trying to protect their neighborhood from an ongoing criminal problem? Yes. Do I believe they thought Aubrey was a criminal and had been committing crimes in neighborhood? Yes.

    But they went about what they did in violation of the law the jury has found. I think tthe third Guy's verdicts are particularly harsh and will wait to see how the judge sentences him.
     
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    Good to see you come around on this one.
     
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    Do you believe had Aubrey just stood there to await the arriving at any moment police he would have been shot? Remember the shots occurred during the physical struggled which was started by Aubrey.
     
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    Don't feed the right too much red meat now.
     
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    Lol... ya think??

    Bryan and Pops were covered by a prosecutor in the OP (even as they managed to spell his name wrong)

    SNIP
    "The chasing him with the truck, false imprisonment – and as a result of that, whether they intended it or not, Ahmaud Arbery was killed and that makes the father and Roddie Bryan guilty of murder as well," Hoing explained.
    ENDSNIP
     
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    It wasn't "started by Aubery." They were chasing him. Illegally. They were trying to criminally detain him and had threated to kill him for noncompliance. They initiated the force.
     
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    We already know who.......starting the maga crowd on here.
     
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    I don’t agree with the neighbors charges of murder. Maybe there is more to it than I know but as far as I know he didn’t do anything but record it.

    as for the other two, I agree with the charges
     
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    LMAO. I highly doubt you’ll see a single protest out of that. You’re obviously still got MAGA syndrome. I find it comical
     
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    Let's see if your prediction comes true.

    What would change if it doesn't?
     
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    I need to look, but I think his charge was felony murder. If that means in Georgia what it does in Texas, then anyone who dies while you are committing a felony counts as a murder, whether you killed them yourself or not. So long as he was found guilty of any other felony during this event, the murder would be on him as well.

    From what I've seen, though, he didn't just record. He was involved in the chase. He almost hit Arbery with his truck. He had used his vehicle to try to prevent his escape as well.
     
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    It doesn't change the outcome, but the "black guy killed, it was justified, the killers are the victims" narrative is going to run rampant on the right.
     

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