McMichael and Bryan guilty of murder and most charges

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  1. Fangbeer

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    Because he volunteered to help them, as I understand it. Under GA law, a party to a crime is just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.
     
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    Solid verdict!
     
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    We'll see how it holds up on appeal. A common misconception is that the jury can determine a violation of the law. They can't. They determine facts, the judge determines the law. The jury is supposed to reach a verdict based on the jury instructions, not what the mob wants outside the courthouse.

    I think if the appellate judges don't feel threatened by the mob, there is a real good chance this gets overturned.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    9/11 call: Hello, what is your emergency?

    Caller: "There's a black man running down the road"

    And based on that call, there is now federal charges pending for hate crimes.

    Bryan's guilty verdict was that he was helping them when he used his truck as an assault weapon, and under GA law a party to a crime is just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    In the face of the video evidence, the 9/11 call?

    I don't think the appellate judges are going to rule that, but for a technicality, another outcome was possible.

    and, regarding your cheap shot sig, Trump lost the popular vote, Biden won it by 8 million.

    Sorry, direct your cheap shots to Trump.
     
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    Significant positive reforms are possible.
    A perfect justice system is just another impossible dream.
     
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    From the twitterati:
     
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    He used his truck as an assault weapon, hence the 'aggravated assault' guilty verdict.

    As for murder, under GA law, a party to a murder is just as guilty as the person pulling the trigger.
     
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    You're gonna let us all know when this happens correct?

    Please make sure we don't miss it. It sounds like it'll be a great show.

    Or.....everything in these posts is total nonsense and your belief that the right is as emotionally stunted as the left is incorrect.

    The left wanted Rittenhouse found guilty because of politics, not facts. The right saw the facts and knew he was clearly innocent. Nothing more nothing less.

    The right saw the facts in this case and see that they were guilty, so they are agreeing with this outcome. Nothing more nothing less.

    I can recall exactly zero rational posts from you....ever.
     
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    Note that the "right" on this forum overwhelmingly supports the verdict.
     
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    Another victory lap. I told you so, to whoever needs to hear that. You know who you are.
     
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    https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/verdict-reached-in-arbery-trial/99786962/

    Check out the last post on page one......
     
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    The jury applied the law to the evidence presented nothing to come around. As I said a tragedy all around. I believe they believed they were doing the right thing because of the crime that had been going on. I don't see where the prosecution proved they just wanted to go out and kill a black guy just to do it as many asserted. But the jury said the law gave them no protection under a self defense because they instigated it.
     
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    Very unlikely to be overturned on appeal.
    The burden shifts hard against convicts.
     
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    In previous discussions, you had defended their actions. Again, I'm glad you've come around.
     
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    Arbery was black wasn't he? Why shouldn't that be used in giving the police a description? I have no reason to believe had Arbery been white he would have told the dispatcher it was a white guy.
     
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    Wonder what will he the sentences especially the third guy.
     
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    Perhaps it would be reasonable to give a location, direction, suspected crime, and then a description?
    A description is not key, police to my location is.
    The description first is seen as a sort of Freudian slip.
     
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    There's almost no chance at all. I suppose some judges could be bribed or threatened or something, but short of that, the guilt here is obvious. Justice has been served.
     
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    No the physical struggle was started by Arbery at the front of the truck when he went for the gun. Had that not occurred do you believe he would have just been shot? I believe the jury viewed it as self defense on Arbery's part.
     
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    Only if you don't consider chasing him down in vehicles, tagging him with it once, and cornering him like a rat to not be any form of physical. Which is interesting.
     
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    Chasing someone down and threatening to kill them if they don't comply, and making physical contact with your vehicle, is initiating a struggle. They initiated the struggle. All he wanted to do was leave. They used physical force and physical threats to stop his legal right to do so. Had they not engaged in a criminal attempt to arrest someone, the victim wouldn't have been shot. Yes, the jury . . . like anyone with two brain cells to rub together . . . viewed this as self defense on Arbery's part. Because that's what objective reality says.
     
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    From the first I heard of this incident, I thought that it reflected some of the greater amounts of unbridled STOOPIDITY I'd ever heard of! There's no state in the country that I can think of that would exonerate someone who ran out into a public street, accosted someone there who was doing nothing more sinister than JOGGING, and then killing him!

    If these half-wits were so spun-up about it, they should have made video clips and/or taken pictures of Ahmaud Arbery in their neighborhood, called the police, and demanded action by LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS if they thought he was burglarizing or threatening homeowners there....

    There are very few situations in this country that permit one person to kill another -- and this situation with Arbery sure as hell was not (NOT) one of them... as these three morons are going to find out for the rest of their lives spent in 'butt-fu*k city'....
     
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