Situation in Central Europe (crisis on the border with BELARUS

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    According to Polish clairvoyant and visionary Krzysztof Jackowski, a worldwide crisis will begin on December 16, 17 and 18, 2021. Not just economic. No shots will be fired, but "the daughter will come to her mother with her children to eat almost anything. " The government in Poland is to be replaced by a receivership, because Poland is now in a state of emergency and the opposition is preparing a political coup. According to the Polish constitution, new elections cannot be held within 90 days of a state of emergency (a crisis on the border with Belarus) - hence the "receivership". Poles buy 95% rectified spirit en masse, because such alcohol can serve as fuel, heating fuel and medicine at the same time. No one will use it that way, but 95% rectified spirit is expected to have powerful speculative value in a time of crisis. For example, in January someone will earn 1 million dollars, or euros, but in February they will already give up because they would have to earn 1 billion (hyperinflation). You have to live on something, so people will trade and need hard currency 95 percent with a band-aid. The Polish government is already trying to double the price of vodka in January (today it is around 25 PLN) and instead of 40% vodka, make 20% vodka.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is an interesting perspective, thanks much.

    Poland joins NATO, and soon thereafter the country is in crisis. That is getting to be an old story.
     
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    Many years of diplomatic efforts and reforms carried out, among others in the area of defence, resulted in Poland's admission to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) on 12 March 1999.
    peeass: the hell of a party!
     
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    I wonder if Poland still has plans to build Fort Trump there for US troops? :lol:

    Russia has been invaded from the West before. I wonder if they will allow it to happen again? Probably not. Poland being in NATO is 'sleeping with the enemy' in the Russian view.
     
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    I fear that a Cold War with Putin at the head of Russia won’t be so cold. But we shouldn’t sit on the sidelines or it will get much worse. I also don’t think we will be quick to interfere being president Harris (as Biden has called her) lacks the ability of a wartime leader.
     
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    Русский шпион!
    Once again the full art of war is makin' "someone else" pay. Woman, not woman - better her, not an old Gingerbread.
     
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    Are you suggesting the US act in the role of policeman? We should 'leave the sidelines' and get involved in another war on the otherside of the globe?
     
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    I do not read or speak Russian.
     
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    I wonder...
     
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    Well I've worked with several Russians over the years here in the US, and only learned a few words and phrases. Yes, I can say 'good morning' in Russian, but I sure cannot write it. :lol:
     
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    "Fort Trump"...will go ahead....what will Mafialand do....probably nothing.

    Russia being invaded is a case of ...look yourself in the mirror.

    Allow itself to be invaded again.....only to reclaim stolen property that the Russkavitch stole.

    "Sleeping with the enemy"??....ya don't say?....No bigger enemy than Mafialand. Since Warsaw Pact dissolved and joined EU/Nato....Poland hasn't looked back....a good thing.....Good Bye...Lenin,LOL.

    Whats Botox pimp chimp going to do....walk into Konigsberg?...:))
     
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    No silly. We need SUPPORT. Not your troops. The hybrid war is totally not about force. One question - how does it look like in America? Huh? The situation in Central Europe? Have you seen any of that in the news, before you saw the video here on YouTube? No. What you see are poor Iraq kids and soon after that POLICE BRUTALITY. And that speaks to Americans. "Hell Yeah!". Poles are the NAZI.. or even worse than that. That's what the Germans used to say - even few years ago. You know what? If President Biden did not accept the Putin's "Nord Stream 2" (a gas pipe under the Baltic See to "supply Europe with GAS") - there would be no story. Silly Trump said TOTALLY NO! But Biden said okay. Now you got results. And the whole thing is right now just about the INFO WAR, because it is a hybrid. No need for shooting - the currencies will drop to zero, because people will believe what they say in the T.V.O. Why because some... not Putin or Łukaszenko - not them, but some, who do not even care how expensive the paint for printing money is - these "some" will say - let's "reduce" the population on Earth. What you say 'bout this. You won't be able to buy a zipp, even if money had a vallue and things were present in the shops. Why? How? How come? Guess. You'll have the whole infinity to wonder at home, while the world would start to collapse - just to prove "a human is one's greatest threat" - so just a few people left can live the world on their terms. Oh - we do not need your troops, money or equipment. We got it. More would be troublesome. We just need your support. Hard to picture that? Exactly. Like a best friend gives nothing to a best friend but a trouble - such support. It is the only thing that can still change something.
     
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    You need our support to do what? Threaten Russia on their border?

    Now that you've been in NATO since 1999, can't you rely upon your continental "allies" in the EU? If you can't, it seems all you're doing here is crying a river.

    Russia has not invaded or threatened Poland, but Poland has allowed NATO to move against Russia.

    I'm sympathetic to the Russians in this case. The US has been in the business of overthrowing legitimately elected governments for decades, all around the world.
     
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    You see - I don't know where you got this silly info from... my diabetes... but look at Poland at a map and look at Russia at a map. Really. LOOK AT IT!!!!!!!! Russians still threaten the world with it's nuclear and military power. Poles? We got soldiers, some equipment (which we bought from the USA) and few alies. Poland attacking Russia? You really think someone buys this? Really?
    Before the wwii Hitler knew attacking Poland as first (and as such declairing the war to the whole world) is the key thing. The centre of Poland is in the geographical centre of Europe. Right now Warsaw is just 200 km from the geographical centre between Washington and Beijing. You just set the migrants on the border - force them to force the border. They move - Russian army moves. They place biological and chemical weapon in Poland - push a button and just collect bodies. The structures here allow Russians to move to the West of the Europe - to Spain and finally Portugal. Why? To have free space and move with ocean fleet to USA with a threat of nuclear weapon bombing - so everyone will accept this scenario. Poles don't have a fleet. Totally zipp. Few F-16s, few Turkish drones, few Abrams and a promise of F-35 in the future. That's all we got against this Russians - who you said we just invaded.

    Ohhh!! I get it - Silly NATO just bought the evil Polish propaganda... really??
     
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    Yes. How did the sidelines treat us during WWII? I believe that all too often inaction is more costly than a quick line of action
     
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    WWII actually had an aggressor in the Axis powers.

    Russia has made no moves to invade Poland, no rhetoric. NATO has gone back on its word so many times it can't be counted. NATO is certainly guilty of saber-rattling and more. James Baker and the NATO gang lied back in the 80's

    Russia has good cause to be most suspicious of NATO.
     
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    It's called "hard knock life". According to Americans (and Poles have to agree with that one) what we do best is always think what happened two days ago and we always wave our saber. Well, Barack Obama did not like that at all. But... he said "no" to stop it fast in Syria. So right now the problem is greater than life. But it is just Syria. Poland is not Ukraine - it is NATO and European Union. Invading NATO with no reaction? That means weakness. No matter how Germans like Putin - he is going to "bite" and he will take the whole Europe when unstopped.
    You know exactly what I wrote to you in Russian. I said "Russian Spy!". But you might check whether I was offensive - simple google translate - but you did not.

    You know what Putin said, when this all started? That Poland has helped the US of A in Iraq and that's why these people (the Iraq people) "come" to Belarus. And Putin said that because of that Poland has to Pay the Belarus. So it is not that hard to recognize the Russian propaganda. It is always just as brazenly hypocritical.
     
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    Looks like belarus has taken a tactic out of frances playbook. Macron has been sending migrants to briton for years.
     
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    Poland doesn't "allow" anyone to invade her... it just happens. Huge, very flat area between larger, more powerfulcountries. Invasion is just a fact of life... over and over.
     
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    The Prime Minister of Poland: Mateusz Morawiecki on Twitter:

    1/2 Europe is threatened by multiple crises. Belarus, energy crisis, gas manipulations, post-COVID, fake news campaigns. Therefore our top priority must be unity through mutual understanding and focusing on fighting with upcoming challenges. https://t.co/AalYPTNq95

    "post-COVID"???
     
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    The Prime Minister of Poland is a great man. Smart, savvy, moral and a hero. Too bad he was born in Poland.

    And, yes, "post-COVID". I live in Texas where we have been free from all the China Virus tyranny since Gov Abbott freed us on 2 March 2021. Our kids thrive in schools that are open, our business grow in a healthy open environment, we have fun at the beach, at the mall, in restaurants... its great. While blue states live in the tyranny of closed schools, shuttered businesses and all the rest, we are free here to enjoy life. We are not preoccupied with a disease, we are preoccupied in being happy and successful. (And we are not suffering from high mortality rates from the China Virus in any way.)
     
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    Can you please try to use paragraphs more often?
     
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    I'll try. Thanks for that one..

    And the thing about freedom from coronavirus. Well, it's not that Simple. Vaxination was not obligatory in Poland (IT is free off charge), but IT is becoming obligatory through special passports and restrictions towards people not vaxinated. Just that the President of Poland (Polish conservative party - PiS, the same as the Prime Minister) promised in his elections that vaxination won't be obligatory.

    Well, on the other hand I am the last one to call each and every human doubt as "conspiracy theory". There has been a rumour around, that each covid variant comes from a laboratory, and that the virus cannot spontainously mutate. Not this virus. A more dangerous virus would be conquered, but not this one.

    Yet, a spontanous mutation appeared in Europe. The new variant gives strange, but mild symptoms - caugh, weakness, no fever, no pain. People take IT as a mild flu and don't go to the doctor, don't get a quarantine, and socialise. This way one person spreads the virus not on one or two other people, but a hundred or two hundred others. No-one takes this new variant serious, but masses of people get immunity thanks to this after being such ill.

    Will the PM of Poland confirm these rumours?
     
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    The new variant will replace all other variants and the decision curves won't cross in the point of no return. One might cheat people the problem still exists, but people wouldn't suffer for real... And that would be a problem for some forces. So this tweet is a first step towards evacuate from the whole thing. Simple as that... a natural vaxine that does not need to be injected and does not dissapear.
     
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    You should come to Texas. There are no tyrannical orders about the China Virus and we're fine. And when the blue state kids whose schooling has suffered are still trying to read and write, our kids will be doctors and astronauts.
     

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