Moscow -US Testing Ability To Drop Nukes On Russia

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  1. zoom_copter66

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    Yes...and make sure to keep testing that ability to drop nukes on Mafialand....keep the vatniks $hitting their drawers....sooner or later they'll make a mistake that will cost them dearly.
     
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    Russia is going through some tough times. Daddy Vladdy needs something to keep the Russian people in check. That is all this story is.
     
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    Ten bombers approaching Russia from multiple directions is a tad more aggressive than the usual tactic of having a couple of bombers make a practice run at Russia.

    It was probably intended to convince Putin to back down and not broaden his invasion of Ukraine. I doubt that it will work. After the Afghanistan debacle, Putin knows that Biden is too much of a coward to stand up to him over Ukraine.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AARguy - There was a genocide going on of 300 Christians a day by terrorists - mostly in Syria, and for all I know it might still be going on. The first city the terrorists entered in Syria was Homs, and the first thing they did was tell the 60 thousand Christians to leave or they'll be killed. There was not a mention of it in the MSM.

    Most of the Christians ran to Damascus to be under Assad's protection, as well as the part of Aleppo under the protection of Assad's army. This is the same Syrian army falsely accused of using chemicals so we can bomb them to support the terrorists.

    Now let me ask you something, how do you know that the video you saw was really an Iranian video, and not a video made by the same terrorists that committed the chemical attacks? We all saw the video where terrorists aligned with the White Helmets that we support, slit the throat of a 12 year old boy, so why wouldn't they run over a boys hand in order to demonize the Iranians?

    Look, no one's saying the Iranians are angels, but there are degrees of barbarity. I don't doubt that the Iranians assassinate dissidents, but let's not forget the Israelis have been assassinating their scientists. And didn't we assassinate their hero and top General Suleiman when he was on a mission to better relations with the Gulf States?


    As far as I can tell, anything the Iranians have done since is retaliation for our actions and Israels actions, so how can the Iranians be condemned without condemning our own government first? A bit of logic here.

    This doesn't mean that I agree with Iran's intent, which is basically to regain control of Jerusalem and its environs for Islam. Just because the Islamic faith believes an area is their holy land, doesn't mean that others should bow to it. I feel if the right of return was to be given to one people, then shouldn't it be given to others as well? So how far back should something like that go? A hundred years, a thousand years, 2 thousand years?
     
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    The bombers and everything we do is to provoke Russia into bowing to our wishes - which is basically to have a meeting to change the Minsk agreement signed by Poroshenko. The minute Putin shows that he means business as far as Ukraine is concerned, and that his red lines in Ukraine are not a joke, we back down.

    If some hot heads in the western Ukrainian Nazi lands decide on their own to restart the war, now that they've gotten more arms, then they're idiots. Nato is not going to support them, nor will we - and it will be the end of Ukraine. It was never one country anyway.
     
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    I'm not sure what Homs has to do with the Iranians being terrorists but... ok, if you say so.
    I'm not sure what Assad has to do with Iranians being terrorists but... ok, if you say so.
    I'm not sure what a broadcast on Iranian TV punishing a kid who stole from a store has to do with chemical attacks in Assad'd are of the world but... ok, if you say so.
    I'm not sure what Suleiman has to do with anything but murdering people but... ok, if you say so.
    I was told by many muslims in the Middle East while stationed there that Iran is a rogue nation whose leaders are radical islamists that simply want to kill infidels. Many muslims in the area are afraid of them... not just Jews.
    I fear Iranians because I am an infidel (non-believer) and as such they want to kill ME. I care about ME and my FAMILY a lot more than Jurusalem.
     
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    If Russia wants to be an enemy, they should expect us to prepare for whatever they may do about it.
     
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    Putin is a thug who once again threatens his neighbors. I wouldn't spit on his grave.
    Russian propaganda.
     
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    bolton is a neocon republican.
     
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    :roflol:

    That you would consider them "trustworthy" says a lot about you.
     
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    Exactly.
    What bothers me even more about these looney religious types is the easy access they have to biotechnology and nanotechnology that can be turned into WMD.
     
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    The US Navy should have no trouble finding Russian and Chinese subs. It is their ICBMs that pose a great threat to us.

    Although I'll admit that Russia isn't really the focus of our current nuclear war fears. It's true that we are building those new "usable" tactical nukes to be able to roll back an invasion if Putin invades the EU. But Ukraine isn't part of the EU, so I wouldn't expect it to erupt into a nuclear war if Putin pushes west and seizes Odessa and the northern Black Sea coast.

    It is China that we really need to worry about. They may start a nuclear war with us over Taiwan.


    I'm sure it will be Russia that starts the war. It always is. But NATO gave up any standing to complain about taking territory by force when they took Kosovo from Serbia.

    If Putin decides to push further west and take Odessa and the north coast of the Black Sea, NATO will probably just step up their buildup of tactical nukes to protect EU territory.

    I imagine we'll end up withdrawing nukes from Turkey, but Belgium, Holland, Western Germany, and Northern Italy will all likely be bristling with tactical nukes.
     
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    You're right, he is a neo con Republican. He was a Director of the Project for the New American Century that was founded by Kristol and Kagan. It favored going to war with Iraq.

    The neo cons are those who I believe switched from the Democratic Party when Bush became president so they could continue their influence on our foreign policy. How in the world Trump let him do the negotiating with N. Korea is beyond me because Bolton immediately said the one thing that would end the negotiations with Kim. Frankly I think it had to do with Kim's relationship with Iran.
     
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    Yes it does, and the fact that you find our propaganda networks trustworthy says a lot about you too.

     
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    When did Russia start a war? Please specify, because the way I know history, Germany started WWII, and we were the ones that illegally bombed and invaded Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

    If you're thinking of Crimea, then think again because the only country that invaded Crimea was Ukraine in 1995. It 2014 the people of Crimea asked the Russian troops stationed there to protect them from the illegal junta in Kiev so they could vote in a referendum, after many of their protestors were killed in a pogrom by the nationalists.

    The reason they voted to go under Russia rather than full independence, was so they could be protected from another invasion by Ukraine. This of course is something you're not going to find out from our propaganda networks.
     
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    Putin won't stop at Odessa....Ukraine,Belarus....Baltics.

    He may even try establishing a land route to Kaliningrad ....which would be totally unacceptable to Poland....maybe some incursion into Finland...Gotland. You give that Kremlin sewer rat an inch....hell take a mile.

    Hell make outlandish demands that Nato be immediately disbanded...same as EU....borders redrawn,etc.
     
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    So tell me, what does Iran have to do with this thread?

    As for what you heard, shouldn't you be looking at your sources as well? Other than personal or political agendas, people also project. It is alive and well in the Middle East.


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    For how can we know if your words are true.
    Or if we're just seeing ourselves in you
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    Russia started the recent wars in both Ukraine and Georgia.


    The Baltics are part of the EU. If he invades the EU, NATO will respond with tactical nukes.
     
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    Maybe true....let's remember Vladolf is a gambler....hell push the envelope....if he gets Ukraine....Belarus,Moldova....are next....even a land route to Konigsberg.
     
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    Making up positions for me? What does that say about you?
     
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    I worry more about Iran starting a conflict than any other major player. Russia and China have no desire for self destruction. Iran doesn't care about this life and only concentrates on PARADISE. Big difference.
     
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    Where in the damn world do you get your information? The war in Georgia started when Sashkavili bombed and killed the Russan peacekeepers as well as civilians. This was verified by the OSCE inspectors.

    As for Ukraine, the Russian army never entered the country. That's the lie that had the German Intelligence agents questioning General Breedlove's sanity.

    According to the OSCE, unarmed volunteers came from Russia and picked up rifles that the Ukrainian army had left behind when they surrendered.


    The only thing that would make Russia invade Estonia and Latvia, is when they start killing the Russian inhabitants who refuse to leave their ancestral lands - which by the way, had always been a part of Russia until stolen by their respective countries.

    Anyway, give me one reason why Russia would want Europe? To covet its gas, oil, minerals, coal mines, diamond mines, gold mines, farmland, forests, etc. Seems like the other way around to me. Are you sure you're not projecting?
     
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    BBC, NPR, PBS.


    That is Russian propaganda. Saakashvili defensively attacked Russian forces as they were already invading his country.


    Sure they did.


    I'm sure if Russia invades the Baltics, Russia will be sure to falsely accuse the Baltics of doing that.


    For the same reason why they invaded Georgia and Ukraine, whatever that is.

    But invading the EU will mean nuclear war, so hopefully that won't happen.

    If Putin is content to merely take Odessa and the north coast of the Black Sea (and maybe nip off part of Moldova) we will probably be able to avoid nuclear war.
     
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    Are you talking about those who believe in fair elections in the United States? Do they believe in ghosts?
     
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    The Soviets invaded Poland in 1920, then again in September 1939 - with Hitler, btw - kicking off WWII.

    Sounds just like the bullshit Hitler spewed about the Sudetenland...
     
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