"Serious Miscarriage of Justice" re: Malcolm X Assassination

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  1. MiaBleu

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    'Serious miscarriage of justice': Two men wrongly convicted of assassinating Malcolm X are exonerated

    Two men who served decades in prison for the 1965 assassination of civil rights icon Malcolm X had their convictions formally thrown out Thursday. Muhammad Aziz was in the New York City courtroom to hear a judge announce his exoneration — and see long-delayed justice finally done. “I’m an 83-year-old man who was victimized by the criminal justice system,” Aziz told the court shortly before he was exonerated. The other wrongly-convicted man, Khalil Islam, went to his grave in 2009 insisting he was innocent.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...d9091aa0bbf4ef284dc0ddf7d4abb252027c596581efa
     
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    No miscarriage, that is exactly what adversarial justice system does.
    No one really investigate crimes, but rather lawyers put all the efforts to convince judges.
     
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    The US criminal justice system, including NYC's system, do not deliver justice at all, or at least very rarely.

    The Central Park Five is another example, one out of many. Julian Assange still sits in Belmarsh for simply exposing the crimes of the federal government. The mob in Kenosha has utterly intimidated the jury, even after a corrupt prosecutor brought a case that should never have been brought, if justice were the goal.

    I'm glad the record has been set straight in this Malcolm X case. It would be interesting to know who actually killed the man. Likely his murder was done by some state agent, as was the case with JFK, MLK, RFK and so many more.
     
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    It's very sad that this happened to these two individuals. Especially considering the authorities had the information to exonerate them.
    First thing I wondered: IF they had the death penalty in that state at that time, would you rather they put you to death, or stay in prison for 56 years, being let out at the age of 83?
    Sure gives some teeth to the anti-death penalty crowd.
     
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    It doesn’t help when people with inflated egos in positions of power withhold evidence.

    Today’s cons would fall in love with J Edgar all over again .
     
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    The way the US justice system handled black suspects on the death of a black civil rights activist.... and it taking over 56 years to correct,... says everything how racist the country is. And nobody is going held accountable over it, not even a little. I suspect that everybody on the wrong side of the law is white.

    Sure, I am popping the race card. The shoe simply fits.
     
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    Well, that's the whole issue with the anti-death penalty crowd. Our justice system isn't fair. If it was, and everyone was treated equally, this question wouldn't loom so long and hard.
     
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    Sounds like racial war propaganda.
     
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    I don't think the Central Park Five were a good example.
    The authorities assumed the five were guilty of a rape because those five were known to have gone around the park intentionally attacking people.
    Some rapist took advantage of the chaos.
     
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    While I of course very much disagree with him in many areas, Malcom X was a surprisingly admirable man in certain ways, and could hold his own in argumentative debate conversation.

    Of course he was not exactly comparable to Martin Luther King, and there are some notable facts in his biography that prevented him from being hailed as a hero, though he is by some more "radical" Black groups.
     
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    Another black man who was wrongly convicted of murder 44 years ago in Missouri was finally released from prison yesterday. But, in the view of most Trumpists of today those like BLM are just a communist plot supported by leftists. Nobody really knows how many innocent men were executed by the racist system. According to the new Trumpist GOP, black Americans have no right to suggest that they have been done dirty by the US “justice system” and demonize those who dare to protest in the streets. Now they are suggesting that any mention of the atrocities should be cancelled from our educational system. CRT, they squeal is a communist plot....This new brand of historical revisionists are really a bunch of sick puppies. Hopefully soon they will all crawl back under the rocks they came from.
     
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    The authorities assumed.....Priceless....And after they were proven to be not guilty of the crimes, Trump took out a full page ad suggesting that they should be executed anyway. Nice guy....
     
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    You can't go around beating people with pipes and beating people nearly unconscious, and intentionally targeting all the white middle aged people, going on a wholesale reign of terror severely physically assaulting random people, without authorities assuming that if an assault happened in that same area during that same timeframe that you are likely responsible for it.

    I'm not going to get into this further because it would be taking the discussion off topic. The topic is Malcom X and the ones who were wrongly accused of killing him... and people who wrongly get convicted of murder in general. (Okay, there are actually a lot of topics, but the topic is definitely not the Central Park Five)
    My only point was that it just wasn't the best example.
     
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    america has the greatest justice system money can buy. in many high profile cases the priority is to "close the case" with actually convicting the right guy not an important consideration. i was young in 1965, and probably had little knowledge of malcom x (compared to the kennedys or king. ) and american muslims were beyond my experience. (still are, really. i know farrakan is their leader and "conservatives" hate him.)

    are there independent investigations that led to the release of this guy. i'll have to learn more.
     
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    I still say its better that 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent be imprisonned.

    ...which necessarily creates a more dangerous society in which people should be prepared to defend themselves from those that go free.
     
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    It was like CP5 because the police and prosecutors did not reveal all mitigating facts and evidence during the discovery process. They knew the case against CP5 was very weak indeed. DJT showed his true colors in the ad he took out with NY Daily News. The Central Park Five Ad Told Us Who Donald Trump Really Is - MTV
     
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    What "Whites" (Asians included) supposed to do?
    If you do not provide clear goal of your movement then it can only be interpreted as a racial war.
    Racial war to create a chaos with the goal to establish communist government.
     
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    I do not know why you can call it greatest, if more then two million people live in prison despite rampant crime in many big cities.
    It appears that justice system does not really do anything.useful
     
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    The Caucasian should be a lot less afraid and trigger happy.............They are terrified that they are becoming a minority in this country........and might lose a their power over others. A style of thinking that is arrogant and outdated........ as it is the fact that this country's multi race etc..........that makes it so wonderful and special. Each group has something special to contribute to the whole society
     
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    Either that or Americans of every race, creed and political outlook are trying to make this country a better and more equitable place for everybody to live. I certainly do not agree that rioting violently, looting or burning businesses are productive means of achieving this goal and have always been against those tactics. However my take is that most of those who support BLM are not some part of a worldwide communist takeover plot. Most are just good Americans who want to see positive changes in police citizen interactions.
     
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    First of all, why should not they be terrified, if they blamed for everything a can be exterminated for something that have nothing to do with?
     
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    Yea, if you want to make country better just stick to the U,S. Constitution. All races are equal under the law.
    If you think that laws are unjust then offer some solution how to change them.
     
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    What if you think that law enforcement agencies are acting unconstitutionally and violating people’s rights based on their race?
     
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    If you are talking about race based police profiling it is not a police problem. Profiles are based on behavior and culture, not the race.
     
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    sad thing is, he should be reimbursed by the government for what they did to him, he will probably die before they give him restitution

    anyone falsely imprisoned should automatically get one million dollars per year served as they are released
     
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