Is Atheism a logical belief?

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  1. cabse5

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    What did I write that was racist?

    EDIT: Blacks don't eat right (too many greasy and fatty foods in their diets) and they don't exercise.
    2ND EDIT: I point this out to counter the lie from Fauci that a disproportionate number of blacks get Covid due to racism in America when the epidemiological reason why a disproportionate number of blacks get Covid is due to multiple co-morbidities in blacks some co-morbidities caused by bad eating and no exercise

    Would it be considered racist to say that most blacks vote democratic when blacks vote democratic about 95% of the time?
    Would it be considered racist to say most blacks aren't educated past high school when most blacks aren't educated past high school?:roflol:
     
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    I don't know if he did, but who cares? Hitchens is dead and didn't speak for atheism or atheists as a group. You are trying to shoehorn your hobbyhorse issue to tar atheists with it. That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    Everything you wrote that follows the pattern "blacks are X" or "blacks think X" or "blacks do X" are racist statements. Can you really not see that?

    No. That would not be racist. Can you see the difference between that and what you wrote before it?
     
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    Hitchens was a famous atheist 'cause he didn't believe in god(s) 'cause there was no proof of god(s) yet he also believed in insidious and omnipresent racism when there was no proof of insidious nor omnipresent racism...Just sayin' that's hypocritical.
     
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    So, you're admitting you're bigoted against those who believe in god(s)?
     
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    It is completely off topic. This thread is not about him, and he does not speak for atheists. And it is especially ridiculous how you have switched from "If you can't quantify it then it doesn't exist" to this critique of Hirchens.
     
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    Hitchens was a famous EDIT: world renowned END OF EDIT: atheist. Maybe you aren't an atheist?...I assumed you were an atheist.
     
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    I take no issue with many who believe in Gods, so no I am not bigoted against god believers as an entire group. I recognize many don't subscribe to the hateful nasty views that others do.
     
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    Glad to hear you think so.
     
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    Why do you think an atheist would care what another atheist has to say off the topic of atheism? Do you expect them to adopt those other views? Do you expect vegetarians to all play chess just because a famous one does?
     
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    I would guess an avowed atheist would call such comments about racism by Hitchens as hypocritical of atheist beliefs.
     
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    yep, there is no proof of God(s), at least you admit that
     
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    just like theist beliefs, not all theists believe the same, not all atheists believe the same
     
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    Every one of those is just plain stupid.

    But, perhaps more importantly, the violent racism we see today is obviously NOT based on your crap.

    It IS based on race hatred - hatred so serious that to these racist criminals it justifies going out and killing, let alone the work they do in their attempt to guaranteed that equal treatment under the law just plain does not exist.
     
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    His comment that you cited is not about racism.

    It is about religion.

    His last states what he's saying: "organized religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience."
     
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    ah huh, and it takes precisely 1 God to be a theist and precisely 0 Gods to be an atheist.
     
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    yep, you can believe in any got to be a Theist

    the only God anyone has ever seen is the Sun God, and ironically that God does give earth life
     
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    the "sun god" helps to sustain life.........life that originates with and in water.


    but re: ;title of this thread:

    Atheism is probably a lot more "logical " than theism or Deism. As by removing God from the equation.......one is left wit science math and logic ........which can be measured.
     
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    You also don't have to be rational
    The father, the Sun, and the holy ghost?
     
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    Wrong, and a very odd choice of words for an agnostic. There are models of reality that contain god(s), models of reality that don't contain any god, and models of reality that contain uncertainty about gods.

    It takes faith in at least one god to be a theist and lack of faith in all gods to be an atheist.
     
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    See you peeps across the pond do not understand english. DUH! Thats what I said.

    freshair had no problems comprehending what I said. seems odd that people from england have such difficulty with the english language.
     
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    There's no proof racism is as insidious as dems claim it to be, either, yet dems claim racism is insidious...Even though racism is insidious W/I the dem party 'cause dems believe racism is insidious and dems believe racism prominently comes from someplace other than the dem party.:roflol:
     
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    Yet, all atheists say there are no god(s) only 'cause there is no proof of god(s) even though that doesn't stop atheists from engaging themselves in ideology and bigotry.
     
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    England? Moi? Wrong pond.

    You said that it takes precisely 1 God to be a theist. But it doesn't, unless you can point at at least one person who actually has a god. What theists have is faith in god(s), not gods themselves.
     
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    I think you're conflating equal treatment under the law with reparations.
     

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