Georgia Black Man Charged with Murder Claims He Shot at White Teens in Self-Defense

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  1. HurricaneDitka

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    It probably depends on the specifics of the case somewhat, but yeah, often. Here's one particularly-memorable example:

    Louisiana Officer Sentenced to 40 Years in Shooting Death of 6-Year-Old (nbcnews.com)

    ETA: you keep bringing up cops, but they're not relevant to Wilson's case. Wilson wasn't a cop. He's not going to benefit from the same (too much IMHO) deference that cops receive from prosecutors, judges, and juries. And before you try to make that a racial thing, neither you nor I would receive that benefit either.
     
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    Speaking of stupid idiots in their high beams I have half a mind to install a stupid bright light bar on my van and a loud ass air horn..... Reserved for only the most deserving of idiots of course!
     
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    I truly boggles the mind to see the left, who for a month now or more has vehemently argued against a genuine case of self-defense with a firearm coming to the defense of this situation which was completely unjustifiable, but you know the skin color is correct so our standards have changed....
     
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    interesting case, rare cops are charged and sentanced like that
     
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    It's pretty rare that cops kill the passengers in cars too, but again, what happens to cops has no bearing on what's going to happen to Wilson.

    Despite disagreeing with most of your political positions, I probably have a similar view to you about the deference our legal industry gives to cops, but I really wish you'd not try to drag that into this thread, because it's just not relevant.
     
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  6. truth and justice

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    Everyone who claims self defense after shooting someone should be charged and then have to prove it was self defense. "I feared for my life" is not an adequate defense.
     
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    agree, much of it though if we're being honest when it comes to self-defense is the luck of the draw with the jury and how sympathetic they are with the victims or the shooter - as it's really based on the shooters state of mind, and no one can read minds... yet
     
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    So just treat it like a crime from the get-go right even if you know it wasn't?
     
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    Yes. Let a jury decide
     
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    Good thing your misguided opinion does not dictate our laws.

    It doesn't make sense to treat something like a crime even when it is obvious that no crime has occurred.
     
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    When does a self defense claim come obvious? " He pointed a gun at me"? "I feared for my life"? "He came into my house"? " He was armed"?
    I've seen claims here that Wilson could have turned off avoiding the situations which could almost apply to every self defense claim. Unless the shooter is actually being attacked at the time, a self defense claim is not valid without a trial
     
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    That is for a district attorney to decide.

    The ones you never hear about making the court are obviously the ones that they decided did not belong in court
     
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    You must live in an area regularly traveled. No comparison. No such thing as "pile ups" here. As to your own experience, I find it arrogant and assuming.
     
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    It does pose a serious problem.
     
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    Not at all in the winter :) Interstate 80 and Wyoming secondaries are two different worlds and that's not even getting in to the off roads :)

    Oh hell, I just read your bio, Arizona? Bro NO comparison of road conditions between the two states :) In fact many of the folks we have to dodge around here are plated Arizona, and if we were to get all butt hurt and pull a gun every time some asscrack that can't handle bad roads and ran with high beams on it be a good chance they'd be places like Aridzona lmfao :)
     
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    I once left my highs on because the oncoming car wouldn't dim his. Turned out he had a set of flashing red lights and a badge LMAO. He just wasted my time screwing with me, License and registration crap ;)
     
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    Perfect!
     
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    Hell even if the shooter had hit the driver he would still be liable for the passengers that were hurt or killed if the vehicle crashed because of it, think about that.. Or crashed in to another car or home or a school yard..
     
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    You seem to think I am saying it is the ONLY evidence required, that is NOT what I have said AT ALL. It would be ONE OF the KEY pieces of evidence to prove a self-defense claim. Clearer now?

    Can he PROVE IT, is what remains to be seem.
     
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    Statistically, the self defense/stand your ground defense works 1% of the time for people of color vs 17% for white people. That's a fact!
     
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    He shot them because he thought they were shooting at his car, and felt his life was in danger. There was supposedly a beer can thrown and some swerving allegedly. The driver and his passengers were also drinking that night. Whether or not a tossed beer can might sound like a gun shot, he just has to convince 1 juror. If indeed they were trying to swerve him off the road, I think a reasonable person would constitute that as a threat because people can die from being driven off the road e.g. hit a tree. There is a lot of he said/she said in this case though.

    His shooting the wrong person has some bearing, but it's not an open and shut case. If a store owner shoots a robber, but misses and hits a customer instead, the store owner still has a claim to self defense despite shooting the wrong person.
     
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    Oh yea for sure lol.

    And notice some posters who feign indifference, their posting direction has changed immediately lol, just due to the color of the skin.

    They questioned the validity of self defense in the KR case despite it being so obvious.

    Now, they "question" why this guys case ISN'T self defense.

    Its an interesting framing. They frame themselves as indifferent, someone interested in the facts, yet the tone of their post and the "direction" is obvious to the observant.

    Its cowardly imo, but also predictable of the left at this point. They dont care about the facts of a case as much as they do the races of those involved. Meanwhile they call everyone else racist.

    Par for the course.
     
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    Thsts basically how it works.
     
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    lol no kidding.

    Thats it right there.

    There just is no justification the left could hear that would work in their eyes so they pretend thats not how it works already lol.
     
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    You have to be really uninformed to think you’re not actually charged with murder when you kill someone no matter how it happened. It’s like DUH!!! :)

    Self Defense is still a response to murder charge. But it’s justifiable murder and NOT easy to prove. Do leftists think you can just walk around , shoot anyone you want and yell self defense?
     
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