Video shows decimated San Francisco Louis Vuitton store after massive smash-and-grab robbery

They're not 'marxists'. Or rather, they're not collectivists/socialists/communists. They're ultra capitalists with a totalitarian bent.

Socialists are about 'small man' empowerment and independence.

 

Bingo!

Education and other sophistry, is NOT the same thing as intelligence.

 

Nothing about Socialism is about independence or empowering anyone other than the established leadership.

 

There are a LOT of marxists out there in the American landscape. We have some in government even. That they are trying to tear down America in order to rebuild it in their vision is obvious to me. It couldn't be more obvious. Yes, they are communists and socialists. Ultra capitalists only want more capital.

 

yep, they use slogans like "make America Great Again", cause they do not think America is great

 

I reread this and though you might mean, the store can do that

there are commercial products, but even this $99 consumer product can do that

https://www.fing.com/products/fingbox

lot of newer phones allow you to randomize your mac address now though, so while you can see the mac, it may change each time they join - this makes it harder for people other than the googles and apples to track people

 

That's what it's ALL about.

I think you're talking about state totalitarianism ('socialism' in name only). That's a completely different animal, and isn't anything like socialism at all.

 

They may call themselves marxists or socialists, but it's all a ploy. And they DO want more capital, that's the point of turning us all into life-renters entirely dependent on a purchased existence.

The very last thing they want is an underclass of property-owning self-reliants. And property-owning self-reliance is a foundation principle of collectivism (IOW socialism/communism).

 

I won’t blame any business that wants to get out of dodge. They want to steal their city blind then they won’t have any resources. You reap what you sow.

 

Well if we don't clean house when we can we are going to test both our perceptions.

 

Explain what the people running the city have to do with this ? Be specific…..

 

OK and you hire private security for your home and stop calling the police if someone has robbed you or is in the process of breaking in.

 

Wrong analogy. Tax payers need to provide a base level of law enforcement and incarceration. This is taxpayers money and I find it amusing how so called conservatives are willing to freely spend it. Maybe that is why your generation put us $20 trillion in debt.

LV will call the police after the incident and they will file a report. Do you expect police officers to stand guard at the store. How many police officers do you think we should assign to finding and arresting these people? How many more jails do you want to build to house them?

If my home gets broken into I can call the police and they will file a report. Do I expect police to guard my home? If someone breaks into a home and steals a television how much effort do you think the police should put into recovering that tv or catching the criminals. When someone snatches and grabs from a business how much effort do you expect the police to put into catching that person and returning the merchandise. It seems I am on the side of consistency.

I believe I have a duty to protect my home and valuables and to deter criminals by making myself a hard target. I have secure locks, safes, monitored alarms and have 7 surveillance outside my property and quite a few inside. I have full insurance and my collectibles are fully documented and insured. If I arm my home when I leave everyone window, door and motion sensor along with all cameras will send information to my phone, the cloud and my monitoring service. That is called taking responsibility and not asking other taxpayers to bail me out.

If I ran a business that put $10K pieces of merchandise on display I would take precaution and put in a level a security to protect my business. It seems like the responsible thing to do but obviously we have hit a point in society where we want the state to do all of the thinking and work for us. Too hard to put in a locking door with a release switch? Too hard to add a cable to the expensive purses on display? Too difficult to put items in a locked display case? Let's just have the taxpayers payers bails us out instead.

How much would you like to tack on the Democrat infrastructure bill to hire more police officers and build more jails? It all free money right? Maybe your children or grandchildren will pay for it just like all the other debt we have racked up for them. It is no wonder we are in the fiscal hole we are in.

 

Theory rather than reality. The purpose of socialism is the opposite of property owning self reliant people. Every socialist society has all the wealth in authoritarian class and poverty elsewhere. Marx's theories don't work because they go against human nature. People want to be property owning self reliant people but, in practice they lose that to the authoritarian class wherever communism and socialism exist.

I call them Marxists because they want to own all the wealth and power, not share it. Yes it is counter to the marxist theories. Socialism can't exist in a free society. The Marxists want to undo the American system to recreate it as a less than free society. I think we agree in principle. We are arguing over semantics. You argue Marx's theories, I argue what they they actually have produced in real economies.

Despite all the warts inherent in democratic systems, they are the only ones that provide for personal freedom and are the most successful by a wide margin.

 

why don't you explain why cities with a long history of Democrat control have high crime?

Your Democrat vote does absolutely nothing to improve the lives of the common folk. It might make you feel good because NPR et al tell you how magnificent are Democrat politicians; you've been hoodwinked

I encourage you to open your eyes

 

The right has become the party of feelings, and factless.

Again….show me any FACTS that can show that this is happening because for democratic policies. I’m seriously here to listen and learn if you have the facts. But claiming anything bad is because of political policy doesn't wash.

 

As usual the lefties here are long on BS excuses and non-existent on solutions.

Must suck to champion, organize, train and let loose your little mob armies on society and then realize letting them continue is bad politics and leashing them back up is bad politics too.

all you’re left with is exactly what we see in this thread. Worthless vapidity

 

Did people wake up and recall Gavin Newsome?

 

Just awesome Blue Politics!

CNN Analyst Has ‘No Idea’ What’s Behind Smash & Grab Robbery Wave—Then Supplies Answer!. “The punishment for this kind of crime is very, very minimal. In most cases it’s a misdemeanor. There are some DAs that have flat-out said they’re no longer going to prosecute shoplifting.”

One Target store. One huge spike in shoplifting reports. What does it mean for San Francisco?

That's the end of that reporting system!

 

I think stores should possibly think about dividing their stores into two sections. Have all the items that value underneath 1000 in a section near the front or possibly outside with a sign that says"donating to the BLM god"

And have everything over 1000 inside the store labelled as "things considered a crime to steal"...

I'm mean let's just cut to the chase.

 

Everything you said applies to a private store TOO. They pay taxes TOO. If you believe the police should not protect them then they don't protect you.

Let me ask you

How many police officers do you think we should assign to finding and arresting these people? How many more jails do you want to build to house them?

None, just let them continue?

I say as many as it takes to stop this lawlessness that cost us all money and endangers private citizens and their property.

 

Did you read my response? My examples are that WE ARE BEING TREATED THE SAME. If someone breaks into my home and steals at TV they file a report for insurance purposes. I do not expect them to assign a detective to track down the thieves and return my property. The same applies to the business. In a perfect world all criminals would be caught and go to jail but unfortunately we live in the real world where resources are scarce and police resources have to be prioritized.

You make it sound like we already do not assign major taxpayers resources for the police and prisons already. My point is I say enough is enough. Our taxes are high enough and spending is out of control. We keep throwing taxpayers money at these problems and they do not go away and you just advocate spending more. The whole problem is people like you say spend as much as it takes and then whine about government spending. My opinion is it is time for the free market and the private sector to step up. When I see riots in neighborhoods and people burn down their supermarkets, drug stores etc... and then these business close down because insurance cost are too high or they pass the cost to the neighborhood, I say let them close and raise prices. This is what you get what your neighborhood loots and riots. Take pride in your neighborhood and the business because it only benefits you. Why should I subsidize their cost to keep these business? When I see people looting high end stores like the LV video I say the business should improve security and harden the target. Pass the higher cost to their customers who want these products and not to taxpayers. If they are unable to do it or do not possess the business smarts to prevent it some other entrepreneur we move in and replace them. Free market solves the problem again. I am sick and tired of everyone wanting the state to fix all of their problems.

 

Uuum. When you decriminalize theft, people will steal with impunity. When you demonize the police, call them racists, and side with criminals, the criminals will feel emboldened. Where have you been? Have you seen the rap sheet on some of our more high profile cases lately. Out on bail over and over again. Bail being reduced just to clear out the jails. Many being just let go. Democrats have been at war with police and law and order for quite a while now.

Crime rates ARE the facts. Open your ****ing eyes.

 

California property crime and violent crime rates per the FBI.

You would be wrong

 

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