COVID Death Toll Under Biden Set to Surpass Trump, In Less Time

During trumps administration, point to me on a world map which country ended the pandemic?

Canada? The UK? ...

Lol

 

The world followed the USA? Lol what the hell?

The vaccine wasn't even out yet for crying out loud.

You've lost the plot.

 

when they first started whining about "mandates" they assured us they were adults and didn't need government telling them what to do. i knew better.

 

australia. new zealand. iceland. viet nam. and many others contained the virus much better than we did.

 

ENDED.

Not contained.

Vietnam is tropical which for some reason early on, COVID didn't do so well in. Australia/New Zealand and Iceland are small ass ISLANDS where it would be super easy to contain and control anything coming in or out. Geez man.

I trained monkey could have contained COVID from Iceland for crying out loud.



And since worldometers.info is still showing Covid infections in all the places you just listed. I'll save you the time of responded to me with bullshit by stating that they have NOT ENDED Covid.

Thanks for playing.

 

I suppose you are to old to rub Joe's hairy legs?

 

Lol oh god that story...

 

This is how the democrats want it. Flood the country with covid infected illegals because high covid = more mail in ballots

 

It's on all those who still refuse to get vaccinated and to follow public health guidelines for masking and social distancing (and, I am sure, for hand hygiene).

You are contradicting yourself: was all the fuss over Covid rules a restrictions, "nothing more than a power grab," or has Coronavirus been a real threat, which Republican politicians have been dismissing and large part of the Republican base have been ignoring?

I thought you were among those who was charging that the Covid death count, under Trump, was vastly exaggerated, because people dying from other causes, were erroneously being attributed to Covid. Is that not still true? Or was it never the genuine truth? It seems your overall attitude is that deaths under Trump were nothing for which to hold the President accountable, until Biden's death count surpasses Trump's.

BTW, it was not until the latter part of 2021, that Covid had made it's way to all of the states. Conversely, it has been present in all states for the WHOLE of Biden's time in office. Does it really escape you as to why the country's Covid deaths, after the virus had fully-permeated our nation, would be higher than when it was only getting its foothold in many places, and had yet to reach others?

 

The previous Trump administration and the world was hit with a NOVEL virus (SARS = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, SARS-CoV-2) that was "more than probably" developed in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China while studying viral samples (a virus called RaTG13) from Yunnan China Horseshoe bats.
The previous administration passed the baton to Biden with 3 vaccines and a developing distribution of 13.5 million vaccinated.. All Joe has to do is get it over the line.. which he will never do.. and with the help of any further developed vaccines they will be distributed at "warp speed" thanks to Trump and the drug companies having received an emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
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Infected vaccinated can spread Covid … so what is your point… there is no way to monitor infected vaccinated or unvaccinated that had mild symptoms and were not hospitalized… Do you have a link to that data?

 

I do not know what your point was. Mine, I stated very clearly: for much of Trump's time responding to the virus, which we are comparing to Biden's time, Covid had yet to reach much of the country (despite the already horrendous death toll). From day 1, under Biden, the Coronavirus had permeated all states, so those 2 periods are not an apples to apples comparison. Do you have trouble following this?

Now, why don't you restate your point? As long as the virus isn't leading to hospitalizations & deaths, for the purposes of this thread's comparison, I fail to see what its relevance is to the thread.

Though you clearly do not explain yourself as thoroughly as do I, I am guessing you were not even addressing my main point but, instead, my answer to the OP's first question, asking where is the criticism, from those on the left. As this is not any assertion, on my part, other than what is being said, on "the left," then, unless you can contest that what I maintained is the actual consensus view of the left, there is no point of mine, that you are arguing against. Instead, you seem to be arguing that the left's criticism is misguided. This is, at best, a side issue, and certainly has nothing at all to do with my main point.

Had you, nevertheless, wished to bridge to that topic, the reasonable thing for you to do, if you were not going to bother to explain this, would have been for you to have emboldened that part of my answer (the way I had emboldened the words in Steve N's question, which that part of my reply had been addressing:

Steve N said: ↑
Everyone on the left criticized Trump over the china virus, and because it was an election year they also weaponized it. Now that Biden is about to be the president with a higher death count than Trump, where is the left's criticism?
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CLARITY is a virtue.

 

For your info, when Florida had near 800 deaths per 1M pop, and one of the lowest;

Infection rate
Hospitalization rate
Death rate

.......it was DeSantis Numbers.

Today, Biden versus Trump’s Numbers.

 

Again all you do is PONTIFICATE with no proof of your obviously false claim that the USA has adopted the U of V dashboard, highlighting your complete IGNORANCE of the subject.
See I can pontificate too!

 

Your intended meaning is completely incomprehensible...
Was that just supposed to be a joke post, as it was a reply to my quote that ends with, "CLARITY is a virtue," and your sentence fragments appear to almost go out of their way, to not be clear thoughts?

If that is not the case, please do not reply in annoyance; I assure you that it would be perfectly reasonable for people to come up with totally different interpretations for your reply, due to the poor way it is composed. For one example, does, "it was DeSantis numbers," just underline that, because he was Florida's governor, Florida's numbers can be credited, in part, to DeSantis, or is it a reference to the well known fact that DeSantis was "cooking the books," with his numbers?

Either way, after I had pointed out to Popscott, that he did not even appear to be addressing any of my argument, and suggested ways he could have made clearer, his intention to change topics, you appear to go ahead to do the same thing, only worse, because you are not even comparing presidents anymore but, I guess, Biden to DeSantis? And it does not strike you in the least, that this will read as an insensible line if thought?

 

All one needs for proof of my claim is to read our now ridiculously and unnecessarily long conversation that you refuse to stop pursuing, which is precisely why I have been saying for the last 5 or 10 posts to let the reader decide and lets stop. Everything is there for them to draw their own conclusion, but you inexplicably just keep going, and going, and going... To make matters worse is that this topic means absolutely nothing, and is a silly strawman off the actual topic that you devised rather than having an honest discussion of the original topic.

You think that there are people that are tracking the movements of a running total of millions of people including over 9 million currently as opposed to them using an estimate. Apparently you think that people must check in with the dashboard when all symptoms have disappeared.

LOL. Your ignorance is not my emergency. I am happy to let the reader decide for themselves, but you seem to keep trying for another bite at the apple. There is not much else to say on the subject, but oddly, I suspect you will persist regardless.

 

There was no Biden response time… he was handed 3 vaccines and a developing distribution

 

""Now, why don't you restate your point? As long as the virus isn't leading to hospitalizations & deaths, for the purposes of this thread's comparison, I fail to see what its relevance is to the thread.""

Those that are infected, vaccinated or unvaccinated... are spreading Covid... illegal invaders bused and flown all over quietly by Joe Biden is just one example... regular everyday people with a sniffle go into work because it is a sniffle.. vaccinated breakthrough cases are spreading Covid all about...unvaccinated mild or asymptomatic are spreading the virus.... CDC DOES NOT monitor the vaccinated breakthrough cases since May 1...

 

The fact Biden rode the Trump's 3 vaccine wave... he failed to respond to the following Delta variant which killed even more people...
Trump had a NOVEL (I know it is a big word, look it up) virus... he dealt with it.
Biden had the Delta variant... he did not deal with it at all... he rode the Trump vaccines HANDED to him. And now we have another variant and Biden is following Trump and doing a travel ban just like Trump did... he is the biggest hypocrite and copy cat there could be...

 

Here is Trump response to just his first month of Covid... Please feel free to show us how Biden could have done better... If fact I challenge you to show us how Biden would have done better...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...ns-response-to-the-wuhan-coronavirus-n2566851

December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.

January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.

January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,

January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.

January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.

January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.

January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.

January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.

January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.

January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.

January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

January 31: The Trump Administration:

• Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
• Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
• Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.

 

Your comment only shows that you lack the willingness, or ability, to consider this topic in any serious way. When Biden came into office, he & his people had been left in the dark, by the Trump Administration, per orders of the Donald, as to the status of the distribution system, the Administration's (lack of) plans, or anything that would enable them to hit the ground, running; this, alone, should tell any reasonable person all they need to know about Trump's priorities.

It also borders on the ludicrous, the way you say, "3 vaccines and a developing distribution," as if now getting those vaccines in the arms of 300 million Americans was child's play, from that point. Clearly you lack any concept of the challenges involved in "distribution." I am not going to waste my time on an obviously futile attempt at having a thoughtful discussion, evaluating the performance of our two leaders.

 

so many deaths, does the right still think democrats concerns over this virus were a hoax like Trump said?

 

And that is two consecutive fails, on your part, to make a coherent point. This thread, tries to compare deaths under Trump, during which time the virus was only, initially, in a couple of states, to time under Biden, the whole of whose Presidency, the American pandemic was in full swing. Anyone should be able to understand that difference-- you have also failed to grasp this, twice. Instead, you keep talking about how transmission has never been tracked. The immediate response that your point calls for, ironically, is, "and who is responsible for the fact that contact tracing was never made a priority?"

The second, obvious reaction, is, if it has not been tracked for either president, how are you proposing that it could possibly be used to COMPARE the two? Do you understand the meaning of that word? To make a comparison, it is generally necessary to have some data. And you redundantly go on stressing the point that there is no data on transmission-- which is the subject that YOU seem to want to inject into the conversation. In short, your posts come across as the ravings of a lunatic. Good luck getting through whatever is to blame for this evening's posts. I'll talk to you again, some other time.

 

You should be aware, since you are so good at using them, that this is known as a "straw man," argument. Had the pandemic ended on January 31st, or thereabouts, you might have a good argument. As it was, however, this was not the case. One must therefore consider the whole of a leader's time dealing with the problem, not just some small segment of it. You are proposing, in effect, that, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln must have certainly enjoyed the play, during which her husband was assassinated. One cannot ignore Trump's interference in the daily, televised Covid "briefings," or any of the ways he failed to provide aid to the states that the federal government was best suited to supply. Nor am I going to re-litigate this with you; that seems like an utterly pointless, waste of time (much like all of your off-topic "replies," to my posts).

Go on, thinking about your favorite team's few good games, of their losing season; or of that really good inning, your baseball team had, in the game in which they got blown out. I see no point in that kind of highly-subjective, selective, walk down memory lane.
Good night, & pleasant dreams. Luckily for all of us, when you wake up tomorrow, Biden-- & not Trump-- will still be our president.

 

PSSSSST... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...ns-response-to-the-wuhan-coronavirus-n2566851

Unlike you I don't take up pages....