After Rittenhouse verdict, advocates demand justice for Chrystul Kizer

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  1. Phyxius

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    After Rittenhouse verdict, advocates demand justice for Chrystul Kizer

    Rittenhouse's defense renews focus on the case of a 17-year-old who killed her abuser

    1. Kenosha Wisconsin - AGAIN. Seriously, WTF is in the water in Kenosha? 1584414799.4932-smiley (1).gif

    2. The Kenosha PD KNEW that Volar was an active pedophile. 1584414804.9904-smiley.gif

    3. I wonder if this Kenosha judge is going to let the prosecutor call pedophile Volar a victim? 1584414801.3623-smiley.gif

    Chrystul Kizer case
     
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    I don’t know much about this case, but in general I get very angry about sexual abuse, particularly when involves minors. I pray she has a damn good defense team to pursue an aggressive case of self defense
     
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    There are VERY few things in this world that piss me off. This is one of them so am in full agreement with you. Indeed I think that like Kyle this shouldn't even have gone to trial provided it's as is claimed.

    But, I do not know the details of the case so will hold off on my ultimate judgment.
     
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    This does actually sound like case of vigilante justice. Which I morally support in circumstances where the justice system actually rails, but I still ethically oppose. From what I understand, in WI the jury is allowed to consider lesser sentences(?). Sounds to me like she should get prosecuted for murder and sentenced to time served. Because vigilateism is, after all, unlawful, and it should be. But also sex traffickers should fear being killed by their victims.
     
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    It's pretty lame, on the part of the media and moronic activists, to try to tie her case together with Kyle's as if they're similar. They're not.
    Her self defense claim, as a legal matter, ought to fail because she provoked the incident by traveling to Volar's home and stealing his car. Also, she was, at 17, already a convicted felon in illegal possession of a firearm. And there's this racial component too:
    Look, if Wisconsin wants to legalize killing people who abuse underage girls, I'm not going to try to stop them. Heck, I'm not even going to complain. But that's not what they've done up until now. Their self defense law clearly does not apply to cases where one travels to the dead guy's house, steals his car, and shoots him when he is not a danger to one's own life:

    Wisconsin Legislature: 939.48

     
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    They met on Backpage, a now defunct website used by ‘escorts’.
     
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    This certainly appears to be yet another case of the Kenosha PD and DA choosing to ignore their duty and racking up a body count. Is it a feature or a bug?
     
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    This probably won't be the last case to be compared to Rittenhouse:
     
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    "Prosecutors allege that Kizer killed Volar on June 5, 2018, by shooting him in the head.[2][9] Charging documents say Kizer admitted to taking an Uber from Milwaukee to Volar's residence, shooting him because "she had gotten upset and she was tired of [him] touching her", and then starting a fire at the residence before departing in Volar's BMW.[5][10] A neighbor called 9-1-1 to report the fire at Volar's house.[3] Police found and identified his burned body, which a later autopsy showed he had been shot in the head.[3] Volar's car was found abandoned in Milwaukee. Police used a receipt found in the car, surveillance video, and Facebook to track the stolen car to Kizer by matching an arrest photo to her selfies and live video.[3][9] Prosecutors allege Kizer also stole a laptop and cash from Volar.[10] Kizer initially denied knowing Volar or traveling to Kenosha, but later affirmed those facts.[10]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrystul_Kizer_case

    "While 17-year-old Chrystul Kizer was inside the house of the man she is charged with killing, she snapped a selfie, prosecutors say. Days later, the Milwaukee teen posted a Facebook Live video saying she shot a "white dude" and wasn't afraid to kill again, according to a criminal complaint."
    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...killing-kenosha-man-arson-facebook/701470002/

    She did not report the homicide to the police. She targeted Volar. She committed other crimes, stealing the money and the car, arson, destroying evidence, mistreatment of a dead body. She lied to the police about even knowing him. She TOOK SELFIES with the body and bragged about it later saying she wasn't afraid to kill again. The judge rejected her argument under the trafficking but that was overturned and is now under appeal. Was she being held against her will at the time? No she wasn't living there, she could have gone to the police at any time and reported the trafficking and abuse to which he was subjecting her. She was free and clear of him and purposely went there.

    I don't know about these self defense claims. Had she been in a car or in a place somewhere and he was trafficking her and she could only get away by killing him then I think that would come under this law, but she had no reason to go to his house with a gun other than her vengeance seeking.

    Not comparable to Rittenhouse at all.
     
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