Mother of parade terrorist points finger

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/waukesha...lack-of-mental-health-services-on-tragedy.amp

That’s right. Blame anything or anyone but the killer himself. Just point the finger at whitey.

 

Huh?

The Title of the Link Reads:

Waukesha Christmas parade alleged killer's mom blames lack of mental health services on tragedy

^Nothing about "terrorist" or "points finger"...

Are you sure that posted the correct link?
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Anyway, as to the topic:

I would have to disagree with your characterization of the Mother's comments.

I am not sure how anybody could construe the following remarks as "blaming whitey":

"Institutions that are equipped and have trained staff is what was needed as well as resources in the communities where people who suffer with mental illness live," the letter says. "Jail is not the answer, because they get released back in society sicker than what they were when they entered. We all see what a tragedy that can turn out to be."

But hey, you do you.

 

This argument is an argument I will never understand. I guarantee that if you sit a murderer (any murderer) down in front of a shrink they will find some sort of mental disorder to throw them under. It’s no excuse and should never be used as one. Of course they’re disturbed. Who cares, let them be disturbed while they’re sitting in the electric chair.

 

You’re too predictable here. Watch as you are heavily outnumbered on this topic. The parade killer was absolutely a terrorist. I totally get that you sympathize for this child/senior killer. It’s not surprising in the least.

Blames = points finger. Jesus Christ.

 

Watch as this thread leaves Current Events...

 

Four posts in. Four different conversations.

lots of assumptions.

We will never understand each other if all we do is assume.

Nobody has sympathized. Quoting someone is not, in any way, offering an opinion.

 

Here's a couple interesting quotes from Brook's mom, and the story itself:

Yeah, well - it turns out that jail would have indeed been the answer if mom here hasn't bailed out her woman-beating son. Because were Darrell still cooling his heels in jail, several people would still be alive and dozens more uninjured. Wonder if she has the self-awareness to realize her part in this tragedy? Probably not.

Blithering idiot.

 

It certainly would be a good idea to have obviously mentally ill people who have allegedly committed violent acts to be examined and evaluated before considering letting them out on bail. If they are deemed a danger to the public because of their mental illness or their extreme violet nature they should be denied bail and placed in a lock down mental institution or a secure jail until the case is resolved, not for punitive reasons but for public safety concerns. We as a nation are certainly in need of upgrading our mental health system. Waiting until a tragedy like this happens then screaming for blood and insulting his family might be soothing and self gratifying to a lot of people but it does not change the fact that there are thousands of potentially dangerous mentally ill people running around out there today.

 

Yeah, I did indeed insult his mom, mostly because by bailing out junior - someone who had jumped bail before - she was enabling a career criminal.

 

Well mothers are going to stand by their kids. And she has had her struggles and heartaches with him. And she wants what best for him and is advocating for him. It's what mothers do. I'm just not going to judge.

 

He is sympathizing. The guy argues literally every post I make. “Nobody is pointing fingers”. The woman is clearly doing so in the article. “There is no terrorist here”. He’s clearly trying to make light of the whole situation. Like he’s brushing a piece of lint off his shoulder like it’s a joke. That’s sympathizing.

This monster killed seniors and kids. That’s what a terrorists does. They attack innocents.

 

Would you say the same about Dylan Roofs mom if she said the same thing? Something tells me you wouldn’t.

 

Yes I would. I think you and I are reading her words differently.

 

Your claim is mom was pointing the finger. She isn't saying her son didn't do it. She's saying he's mentally ill. And she's right. We send the mentally ill to prison where they only learn how to make the worst possible use of their condition.

Anyway, your title breaks a forum rule. In current events, you are not allowed to put personal opinion into the thread title.

 

“He was not given the help he needs”. That’s blaming. Somebody else didn’t “give” him something. Pathetic parenting. What he needs, is the electric chair.

 

So very predictable in fact, that before I even hit "show ignored content" I knew exactly who had posted.

 

Well that's understandable but also this is understandable as well, at some point you have to just wash your hands and say mama tried and realized that it's a lost cause.

 

it certainly looks like that. However I fault the prosecutor for not insisting that this was a dangerous individual who should not be released on bail until further review and the judge who decided it was a minor infraction due to the low bail amount. In most cases not involving violent crimes like running someone over I generally support low or no bail. However in cases involving violent offenders with a past history of violence I think that public safety should be seriously considered before granting bail. Also, when violent offenders are sentenced to time in prison, they are likely to come out more violent and dangerous after doing time than when they went in. I believe that more effective rehabilitation and mental health treatment should be required in prisons. Not to coddle these people, but to protect the public when they are released back into the public. The way our prison systems are designed and run is a recipe for disaster. This is a classic case of that. So in a way, his mother is right.

 

I mean, I understand where you're coming from - but ultimately, the problem with mom's view is this: Who's gonna tell the family members of the deceased that argument?

 

we see this often, parents defending their child, they often see the best in them no matter what

I don't doubt he had mental issues or drug issues, but the time to get help was before this, too late now, a line has been crossed - but we can help others before they cross the line

some on the right even claim schools shootings are faked, a member in Congress actually attacked the victims - some just refuse to see what they don't want to see

 

In cases like this there should be an expedited death penalty there's no reason to sit around and wait two decades and go through a bunch of appeals when you know damn good and well he did it.

 

This guy should have been in a lock down mental institution years ago. I can not believe he was granted $1000 bail considering the crime he was charged with and his record of violence and absconding on bail. I do not know what the judge was thinking. I feel terrible for the families of those who were killed that day. There are no easy answers. From what I have read about the guy he was diagnosed as mentally ill when he was 11 years old and has been rampaging ever since. The scary thing is that there are 1000s more like him running the streets...

 

I agree for the most part. However its important to learn what makes a murderer so we can try to reduce the occurance of it happening. People don't make choices in a vacuum, they make choices based on their individual perspective that is largely (not necessarily entirely) based on their life experience. It would likely be useful to society to find out what we can about this guys life experience to see what causes someone to decide to mow down children with a car.

Unfortunately, I've little faith that sitting him down in front of a shrink will accomplish this. Psychology is still based on a lot of conjecture. But every new 'dataset' helps it along.

 

At the same time, I've called for what she's saying here. These people are and will be mentally perturbed and by putting them with more violent criminals, that's part of the issue. Let's take a different situation: A woman becomes a prostitute because she's hooked on heroin. Instead of treating prostitution as a crime, there's literally self-health facilities. We look at these facilities as extras, but in honesty they are necessities and probably cheaper alternatives.

Put it this way: A jail cell shouldn't be seen as the first, second and last solution. That's why we have more incarcerated than anyone else. We keep hitting nail to hammer. I don't believe he should've been bailed out, but I do wonder if we could have less crime by attempting to address the root of these issues as a whole.