Dem senator warns Supreme Court of 'revolution' if Roe v. Wade is overturned

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  1. Capt Nice

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    Not to worry. The wealthy will just enjoy a jaunt to a nice tropical paradise for a fix. The only people who will be affected by RvW being shot down are poor people.
     
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    And the unborn
     
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    i strongly advise against this. It would go very badly for the left.
     
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    I would argue that you should never underestimate any threat. However I would say it would go very badly for the nation as a whole.
     
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    Fetuses before a mind are not persons. What’s next? Is every sperm precious? Life at conception is equally ridiculous.
     
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    Armed conflict would go badly for whoever the real military is against, left or right. Bunch of gun toting red necks don’t matter in a modern war.

    But revolution isn’t always armed conflict.
     
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    I’m not claiming that a woman’s egg is a human nor is sperm. I’m claiming that what you call a fetus is the path to a human. It’s already been combined to surpass either a sperm or egg. It’s a materializing human being. One that is coming to life, not dying, not developing brain damage, it’s developing into a human and should not be murdered.
     
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    No explanation as to your reasoning? The reason that abortion is a federal right, is that it is central to a woman's right to liberty, not to mention equality. Is it your feeling, then, that the other federal laws protecting one's liberty should also be left up to the states to decide on whether it should grant liberty, in which ways, to whom, and how much?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    How funny the history repeats itself coming full circle.

    Back in the sixties liberals spit on troops returning from Vietnam and called them baby killers.

    Now they're threatening to become Killers if you take away their "right" to kill babies.
     
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    There is about to be a very interesting, suspenseful dance, played out before us, for those with some patience.

    First, the SCOTUS will not go so far as to "strike down," the right to abortion (at least not now). But they may go almost as far, by declaring it not a matter for national law but, rather, something over which the states should each have full discretion. The other alternative is that it could be kept a national law, but the litmus of viability could be seriously reduced (while perhaps giving states some ability to extend the right, if they chose to). That abortion rights, as they have been, will be upheld, in this case, seems unlikely.

    Ever clueless, Republican Senator Susan Collins has already put out a call for the Congress to codify abortion rights into law. Of course, as the result she fears, is exactly the one that much of the Republican base has apparently been clambering for, and was promised them by Donald Trump, from his Supreme Court picks-- in fact will be one of the greatest of victories delivered by both Trump & by Mitch McConnell-- it is hard to imagine a bunch of Republicans signing on to the effort. And without ten in the Senate, of course, the attempt is doomed. The only hope would be if enough Republican Senators got such outpourings of outrage from their constituents, that they gauged it worth going against Trump & all the other Republican constituents that they would be upsetting, by negating this long sought, Supreme Court victory. While it is possible, I wouldn't suggest you hold your breath.

    But, if some Republican Senators did turn traitor (as they, no doubt, would be branded), the plot would thicken further, because the House had, earlier in this session, already passed a bill, codifying Roe. Yet, Collins is saying that bill goes too far-- she would want a more limited bill. But Schumer has pledged that he is bringing the House bill, to the Senate floor. So we have developing, at least potentially, an extremely high-stakes game of chicken. That is, if, somehow Collins could find 9 other Republican Senators willing to at least vote to move a more limited bill to the floor, would Schumer bend to give them that option, or would he give them only the choice of the House bill, or nothing?

    Usually, I would expect Schumer to cave, in that situation. But Chuck might be thinking along the same lines as yourself: that about a year of chaos, over abortion, might serve Democratic prospects well, in 2022. Time will tell.
     
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    The ruling was based on an argument over privacy issue. No one ever argued there is a "right to abort". If the new SC can come up with an argument to show it is not a privacy issue, then they can overturn it. It would not be the first time they overturn their own ruling.

    Lets not make stuff up. No one has threatened to kill anyone.
     
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    Correction: no one on the pro-choice side has threatened to kill anyone. The "pro-life" side already has a notable body count.
     
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    Why is it the left always threatens violence when they don’t get their way? Very un-American.
     
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    The pro-choice side has millions dead.
     
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    Zombie lie.
     
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    There has been killings on both sides, but there is not reason to believe the "revolution" refers to an armed / violent revolution, like in France when they pulled the guillotines out of storage. The word can mean many things.
     
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    Sure, like 'get more confrontational" when they are already demonstrating....

    Is there any wonder what she meant by that?

    It's pretty clear what revolution means in this context.
     
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    Obviously to you every confrontation must be of the violent kind. That is how YOU think, but others (practically everyone else) knows there are many ways to confront.

    Feel free to take it any way you want. When I heard it I shrugged and moved on, but given the way you take things, you might want to dig a trench around your house and stock up on guns, ammo and canned foods.
     
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    Is there some silly reason you feel the need to make me the topic instead of what the topic is?

    I'll keep my personal opinion of you to myself.


    But thanks for being a mind reader!

    You know that's half the reason I come here right? Trying to figure out what I think for myself is hard work so it's much easier to let people like you do it for me!


    The people thinking violently are the Democrat leaders of course you don't wish to acknowledge that so you'll make me the topic instead.
     
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    Only because you don’t value life.
     
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    Awww......I am on topic: practically everyone else knows there are many ways to confront.

    Ok, so whose opinion did you share if not yours? Whose water are you carrying?
     
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    There is no constitutional right to abortion. They implied that it’s a right by the constitution in roe V Wade but find me one part that mentions abortion just one.
     
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    The left is completely capable of violence. Really any human is. But this threat of revolution was not iterated by any peaceful intents.
     
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    Who are the democrats enemies now? Russia? China? No, their enemies now are 1/2 of Americans that don’t bow down to the democrats deranged ideology.
     
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    Yes, all people are.

    How do you know? Who is she in charge of, who would put a violent "revolution" into action? No one. Obviously she only THINKS there would be a "revolution" of some kind, but its silly to think abortion issue would lead to a violent revolution. If there is a revolution, it will be:

    1. A "***** hat" protest where thousands of women march down the streets,
    2. A "revolution" in the mid-terms and 2024, when abortion (as a political asset) shifts from the GOP to the Dems.

    True both ways. That is what a divided nation looks like. You sure treat them as your enemies, talking about the need of civil war and all.
     
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