Let's do a pros and cons of Trumps Presidency

My bad. I should have specified US history. There. Fixed it.

 

He enlisted the help of every government department he could, the RW media, Twitter and any and everyone that would listen to his lie. Thousands of his supporters showed up in Washington for the 6th insurrection; the flew in on private planes, took buses and drove in private cars. He tried to coerce State and Federal government officials. He summoned thousands of his supporters to Washington DC. He didn't miss a trick; he couldn't have tried harder.

 

I notice his ardent supporters have no pros to post here.
And those that did, his best achievement was raising the ire of dems. What an achievement in 4 yrs.

Pro - His handling of the covid virus.
Con - Was terrible at leading.

 

So the best anyone is capable of doing in an honest to God full out effort to forcibly take over government is a half-assed speech inciting a flash mob to break a few windows, take selfies, and get 1 total person killed by use of force.

You’re right. A+ effort there Trump.

A typical Democrat caravan hitting department stores is tougher to beat. They shoot guns.

 

True, elections were stolen from Trump and $100 millions were stolen from me. We have the same evidence.

 

It wasn't a "half-assed speech it was a full on WEEK prior getting people there and then a whole morning of one speaker after another inflaming a crowd of his supporters into a frenzy; but you know that. The only hope you and the rest of tRumpublicans have is to obfuscate the seriousness of his call to arms.

 

a call to arms that nobody brought arms to. No shots fired except by the police.

but fine have it your way, Trump did everything in his power to get what he got, and what he got was the equivalent of republicans having a frat party in congress.

A real insurrection from the Republican Party would look more like the kkk and NRA armed to the teeth and a huge gun battle involving thousands of members battling tooth and nail throughout Washington DC and dozens of other cities.

So take note Liberals, when the President and leader of their party tries a full “call to arms” he gets a frat party gone awry.

Meanwhile Democrats are burning cities, rioting, and killing, showing us exactly the disparity between the two parties.

So make no mistake the Democrats are the party of violence and crime. They defend little girls being raped by transgenders. They’re moot on republican congressmen being actually shot. no problems there huh?

How about you get your party in line before worrying about what repubs do or have done. It’s next to nothing compared to the elephant-sized donkey in the room

 

There are no 'pros' which can counter balance the following reports:

How The Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the
2020 election

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim Staff Report FINAL.pdf

Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The
2016 Presidential Election. Volume II does not exonerate Trump
on the matter of his obstruction of justice.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Report of the Select Committee On Intelligence US Senate on Russian Active
Measures in the 2016 U.S Election.
Review of the Intelligence Community Assessment

There are four prior volumes, but volume 5 is the main one.

Volume 5.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

 

Pro: Trump's deplorable character and performance as POTUS united Democrats to get him out. Biggest turn out in history.
Cons: The GOP has lost all the brains of their party for not bending a knee to him.

 

so 1/6 is a 'frat party' gone awry?

Some did bring arms ( was found in one guys truck), and quite a few brought tactical gear. But they brought a lot of items they used as instruments of hand combat.

yeah, nothing that spells frat party than guys like this:




And this:

 

The one you named in the OP is the biggest and most important one that I think will be remember the longest. Trump, for all his failings, said out loud what these political insiders had been keeping silent for decades. He had no filter, and even though he lied often, he exposed many ugly truths about the system that others sought to keep unspoken.

What absolutely amazes me is that now that he is out of power the after effect has been almost entirely partisan division, and almost no systemic reform.

 

OK. The pros took over from the cons on January 21.

 

No thanks to Trump.

 

Yeah. Frat party. Cause I’m able to distinguish between what actually happened and the unused guns that were only being shot off in your head.

keep running scared of the repubs. Just don’t run smack into one of your Democrat flash mob caravans, those guns go off for real and they’re not very good at telling friend from foe

 

Asking for an investigation into fraud in the election is the right of every participant .. not that much of a deal .. and really has little to do with what was - or was not - accomplished as president.

I find little in Trumps record that can compare with singling out a group within society .. using state sponsored propaganda and lies to demonize this group of people .. followed by taking their livelihoods away . restricting their movement - forced medical treatemtent .. everything you would expect from Authoritarian Facist

 

Under conditions Biden ignored.

Pro: Created the lowest unemployment in history for every demographic.
Con: Bump stock ban ignoring the law.

 

Yes, nothing spells 'investigation of fraud' like asking the GA secretary of state to find enough votes to overturn the election.

If you want more examples of Trump exceeding the boundaries of decency and fairness, and probably legality, that is what the report is about.

 

Below is one of the unemployment statistics from prior administrations through Trump's.

As we can see, all Trump did is preside over a declining unemployment statistic, clearly set into motion by prior administrations. So, in essence, Trump was given a smooth running Corvette and all he had to do was not wreck it.

Unfortunately, he did precisely that by the end of his term. Though his stimulus package was a good thing, that much I will grant him.

 

It’s the left wing tendency to blame anyone else for Trumps successes and blame anyone else for Biden’s failures.

 

Don't need any more examples as I do not claim that Trump did not exceed the boundaries. What I claimed was that Biden is worse - and gave a reason for that position.

"singling out a group within society .. using state sponsored propaganda and lies to demonize this group of people .. followed by taking their livelihoods away . restricting their movement - forced medical treatemtent .. everything you would expect from Authoritarian Facist"

Difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump did not succeed with his Evil Deed .. Biden did .. at least for a little while .. looks like the courts are starting to step in to censure the Biden Fauci clownshow a little.

Talk about exceeding the Boundaries .. way worse than anything Trump ever did.

 

But that is not the complete picture. First of all, the unemployment under Trump dropped to levels not seen in decades. In addition, we saw a slight increase in the labor participation rate. That is the best possible combination.
Civilian labor force participation rate (bls.gov)

 

His handling of covid cost him the election. IMO

 

No. That was a last ditch effort.
He tried hard to get States to lie about their election numbers. One guy even recorded a call where Trump asked to fake the numbers. Just find the votes. You know how. You will be a hero.

 

He did nothing to get that except get elected on the back end of the longest bull market in USA history.

 

"Arms", don't have to be fire-arms. A lot of damage can be done to a person with a flag pole, and was. But they were armed with much more than flag poles, they had:

Bear spray
950,000 volt stun gun
night sticks (probably weapons of opportunity taken from police)
9mm hand guns
pocket knives
baseball bats
rebar
tire irons
hammers
sledge hammers
riot shields (probably weapons of opportunity taken from police)
crow bars

And that's just a short list, you probably won't read these links since they aren't endorsed by Q, but there you are.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/9778...ere-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/
https://www.statesman.com/story/new...rs-were-armed-guns-documents-show/7963993002/
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-j...y-6-insurrection-congress-domestic-terrorism/

The ONLY online references to the insurrection being a "frat party" are linked to Qanon, so I didn't bother reading them. But IF that's where you're getting your impression of the attack on OUR Capitol I understand your misconception of what happened.

It wasn't Democrats that started the 2020/Floyd riots, it was anarchists from across the political spectrum; many of them Donald Judas tRump supporters, like the ones that took over the Michigan capitol.



"Who caused the violence at protests? It wasn’t antifa."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

"AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals"
https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

Demonstrations & Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

So excuse me for not buying into your Q fantasy but before you start blaming "Democrats" for everything under the Sun, try enhancing your information with something other than WingNut crazy talk.