Lying Gasbag Alec Baldwin Claims Gun Fired Itself.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Bow To The Robots, Dec 2, 2021.

  1. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113


    Murderer and actor Alec Baldwin cries White tears, claiming the uncleared weapon it pointed at cinematographer Halyna Hutchins just mysteriously fired itself. How stupid does this bald-faced liar think the public is? The ego of this murderer who has been told its whole life that its **** smells like pineapple rainbows has got an ego that permits it to make such ridiculous statements with a straight face.

    The weapon - reportedly a .44 revolver, probably a magnum - is likely a single-action period-correct Colt replica. There is absolutely NO WAY that weapon fires itself. And it is impossible to fire without first being manually cocked by setting the hammer with the thumb. It simply can not be fired unless this action is performed - even if dropped. The firing pin would not make contact with the primer.

    Most likely scenario here is this ignorant anti-gun idiot is playing cowboy, fails to clear the weapon (rule #1 w firearms) because it is used to having things done for it, cocks the hammer because it never bothered to learn firearm safety, and now has in its hands a hot weapon with a very light trigger action, and again because it never learned firearm safety and has no trigger discipline, points the roscoe at the camera and brushes the trigger with its finger, and... BANG. One dead camera op. For those of you unfamiliar with firearms, a .44 mag at close range is going to make a very large hole in whatever it hits: It will crack an iron engine block. Soft tissue? Yeah, not much left. The .44 makes a 9mm feel like a BB gun.

    Even Baldwin's pal and fellow anti-gun zealot (who -- like Baldwin -- makes millions portraying gun violence) George Clooney said "yeah, Alec really ****ed up this time... you never handle a weapon without clearing it first." This is 100% negligent homicide. But Baldwin already cried White tears, so it's likely not going to see any criminal prosecution. I hope the family of Ms. Hutchins takes Baldwin for every penny.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,006
    Likes Received:
    90,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have a gun, just one gun. In the 11 years that I’ve had it it has never fired off a round without a specific series of events taking place with the last event being pulling the trigger. Baldwin is talking to his fellow progressives who will want to believe it’s the gun’s fault just like it’s the car’s fault in Wisconsin.
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,283
    Likes Received:
    11,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is not likely a 44 magnum. It is a replica of a revolver from the 19th century and the magnum is a 20th century innovation designed for a higher weight and higher velocity projectile. But that makes no difference.

    For just plain target practice, I prefer a revolver over a semiautomatic. I qualified with a 38 special S & W before heading to Vietnam. I own a less expensive 38 special revolver.

    The one Balwin misused was a single action meaning that the only way to fire it is to pull back the hammer separately. Pulling the trigger will not pull the hammer back. There is almost no way on the face of this earth that pistol could have gone off without pulling the trigger. It is possible he had his finger on the trigger with enough pressure to cause it to fire without realizing it, but he should not have had his finger anywhere near that trigger until he was ready to fire the weapon.
     
    roorooroo, Steve N and drluggit like this.
  4. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    100%

    I've been involved in shooting sports for over four decades since my grandpa and my dad took me out in the woods at the age of eight, drilled the Four Rules into my head, and gave me my first firearm: a Cooey .22 single-shot bolt action rifle. I still have it.

    Since then I've owned hundreds of firearms of every chamber and every imaginable configuration, discharged easily 100,000 rounds, have even dropped my share of loaded firearms (due to my negligence) and never not ONCE have I been responsible for an unintended discharge. I say this not to pat myself on the back, but rather to illustrate this is pretty universal for responsible gun owners who take firearm safety seriously and respect firearms for the deadly devices they are.

    Guns don't simply "go off."

    Baldwin and Baldwin alone is 100% responsible for this negligent discharge.
     
    roorooroo and Steve N like this.
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He is not a murderer. He is merely an outspoken anti gunner that unfortunately became an example of how dangerous the ignorance his side pushes actually is.

    Those of us raised with basic firearm safety know that there is no such thing as an unloaded weapon and that it should always be pointed in a safe direction even if our finger is off the trigger.
     
  6. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    21,436
    Likes Received:
    12,227
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    We just had a guy who thought he was experienced shoot and kill his 11 year old daughter with a high powered hunting rifle in Texas??????
     
  7. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's why I said "probably" a magnum. :razz:

    It has been reported that it was a .44, but you're right it could be any of the many variants of the .44, not necessarily a magnum. So while a .44 sp won't crack an engine block like a magnum, it will still make one hell of big hole in a human body at 5 yards. I have a .44 Rem/Mag Super Blackhawk - from ten feet away, it could easily fit in on a cowboy movie set.

    My understanding is that more and more action movies are now going to CGI to simulate the discharge. Probably a good move with idiots like Baldwin running around pointing uncleared weapons at people.
     
    Steve N and ButterBalls like this.
  8. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If Kyle Rittenhouse is a murder, the Alec Baldwin is a murderer. Everything else in your post I agree with 100%.
     
    Steve N and ButterBalls like this.
  9. Big Richard

    Big Richard Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2021
    Messages:
    2,437
    Likes Received:
    2,645
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Baldwin. What a lying piece of garbage. Reminds one of Xiden.
     
  10. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,663
    Likes Received:
    27,200
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The **** does that mean?
     
  11. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,539
    Likes Received:
    37,911
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you can believe an actor, then clearly you are a leftist :) Hollywood is the voice of the DNC and funneled all the way to down to the tar pits..
     
    FatBack, JET3534, roorooroo and 2 others like this.
  12. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,539
    Likes Received:
    37,911
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Key words bolded, just like antiguners that think they know anything about them ;)
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2021
  13. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,539
    Likes Received:
    37,911
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Really? If it makes no sense to you then please stay as far away from guns as humanly possible!
     
  14. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,554
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Evidently Baldwin doesn't know the boundary between make believe/fiction, and testimony. I believe the forensic evidence when they say he had powder residue on his hand. Likely, there is also a fingerprint on the trigger as well as the rest of the weapon. Guns don't just go off on their own. He's lying because these MSM frogs allow him to do so. This is what he expects the public to believe. Because he just can't overcome his own arrogance and stupidity took the life of another. He needs to serve real jail time, years of hard labor and I don't believe any amount of even those conditions will break him of his own self adoration.
     
    JET3534, roorooroo, Steve N and 2 others like this.
  15. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,554
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Perhaps it will turn out this one was a CA refuge... Stranger things have happened in TX recently.
     
    Steve N and ButterBalls like this.
  16. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,663
    Likes Received:
    27,200
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I want to know what "the ignorance his side pushes" is supposed to mean.
     
  17. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    20,239
    Likes Received:
    16,160
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    I think the gun was a a replica, made in Italy by Oberti, and I have one. Duplicates of Colt peacemaker, single action six. Most likely .45 long colt. IF the gun had been a genuine Colt original, many issues could cause it to fire, for example just dropping the old ones with a shell under the hammer could cause it. In the replicas, safety devices are built inside. In my gun, the firing pin is an insert in the hammer that will not reach the shell unless a sliding rod inside the hammer rises to push it forward, and that takes full cocking. You wouldn't see any outward sign of that, but it's there. I'm saying a replica gun (Oberti specialized in recreations for the movie industry) is far safer to handle than a genuine period Colt would have been. While I have no idea what happened, it would be safe to say that a replica gun could not fire without the hammer being in the cocked position, and that would be really hard to mistake. Without that, a trigger malfunction would make no difference, even a worn or broken internal part would not. As a single action, it would have a very light trigger that could be tripped unintentionally if you were a bit careless- but the fact it would have to be in full cocked hammer position would, or should, be a huge red flag to anyone with even modest knowledge of revolvers.

    I have to agree- that regardless of the state of the weapon, the person who takes it becomes responsible to confirm it's present state and maintain the safe handling protocol.
    I suspect that the most likely scenario would be one of intending a dry-fire, not knowing the gun was loaded. That too- is part of the protocol; you check for yourself no matter what anyone tells you.
    I'll leave it to the investigators to place the blame, they may find or know something not known to the public.
     
    Steve N and ButterBalls like this.
  18. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,539
    Likes Received:
    37,911
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you fancy us MIND READERS lmfao :) It couldn't be any clearer really..
     
    Steve N and Doofenshmirtz like this.
  19. 10A

    10A Chief Deplorable Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    5,698
    Likes Received:
    1,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pity that Baldwin didn't take an NRA basic class on handguns. He'd learn the difference between single action vs double action vs semi auto. More importantly, he'd know the basic rules of gun safety, and the 3 main ones he violated that day. Keeping just one of those rules would have saved Halyna Hutchins. But, no, the NRA is BAD right?
     
  20. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The anti second amendment crowd exploits the profound levels of ignorance of firearms that exist within that group. They don't know the difference between an AR15 and a Ranch rifle, a clip and a magazine, and would certainly never work to educate people on basic firearm safety.

    Ironically, Baldwin speaks out against the NRA, that actually produces educational videos on gun safety. What Baldwin did that day is something that a child with basic knowledge of firearms would never do.
     
  21. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some people should not be allowed to own a spork!
     
  22. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,880
    Likes Received:
    8,846
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anyone wanting to purchase or use a gun should be required to complete a basic gun safety course.
     
    Rampart likes this.
  23. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The **** it means is that this idiot should not be handling a deadly weapon because it hasn't bothered to learn the critical safety rules that all responsible firearm users learn so as not kill people unintentionally. Which then as an added bonus means you don't have to go lie to George Snuffleuphagus on national TV.
     
    FatBack, roorooroo and Steve N like this.
  24. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He will not spend even a night in jail. This is America. We do not imprison our celebrities.
     
    Steve N likes this.
  25. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I understood it to be an original piece dating to 1880.
     
    Melb_muser likes this.

Share This Page