3 killed, 6 injured in shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan

Rebuttal of what? Perhaps you could explain how gun and crime figures relate to people who have been found dead in their homes due to the pandemic?

Meanwhile;

 

Think it through. Reading the article might help.

“The authors added: ‘Our study’s information has important ramifications for the autopsy process, as bodies with significant decomposition changes are less likely to provide reliable, accurate causes of death due to the degradation of tissue and toxicology.

‘This can lead to bereaved families having more uncertainty regarding the death of a loved one.’”
METRO UK, Huge rise in bodies found decomposed as deaths at home soar during pandemic, By Harrison Jones, 11/21/2021.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/21/huge...deaths-at-home-soar-during-pandemic-15640000/

 

LOL They are NOT implying that a crime was carried out as the cause of death

 

I am NOT "Defending" anybody...

And, IF you Mistakenly-Gleaned that Egregiously Misguided "Interpretation" of my Remarks...
...THEN, Congrats!

You Have Just Become a 4-Time LOSER in this thread...
At this point, you really should consider quitting while you are behind.
This is tne 4th Consecutive Misguided Post that you have made (which has been totally debunked and eviscerated).

I think Simpkins should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...

1) I NEVER "Defended" Simpkins.
2) He is charged with several violent Felonies, and I wouid favor him being prosecuted (and sentenced) to the Fullest Extent of the Law!

Now, it is up to you.

You are Already a 4-Time LOSER in this thread.
^And Everybody SEES That.

So, now the question becomes:

Are you going to leave well-enough alone?
And, quit while you're behind (without digging a deeper hole)?
^As it stands now, you are only 1 more misguided post away from Mariana Trench Territory.

Or--Will you continue on toward being a 5-Time Loser...
...and seek "One for the Thumb"?

 

Lol, calm down or you're going to have a stroke. It's hilarious that you're getting that worked up over it. And everyone can see that...

 

Oxford School Shooting: What We Know - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Here is a picture of what it looks like an innocent looking little boy. It doesn't look like he would go out and shoot dozens of other people and end up killing four of them would it? I find this difficult to believe, but it happens to be true like the Columbine incident that happened more than 20 years ago.

What makes certain kids want to kill others? What motivates them to cause such atrocities anyway? What is society doing to stir our youth to go the wrong way? Are there any answers to these questions?

 

"Worked up" over what?

Setting the record straight?

Against someone who has posted several posts of Pure BS?

Sorry, Bro'...
BUT, when you post that sort of Unmitigated BS, and then you get called out, and then you double, triple, and quadruple down on the BS, what do you expect?

This is an Adult Forum.
People should fully expect to get called out for trying to convince people that "2+2=5".

Just admit that you got owned (as Everybody SEES) and move on.

Or, in the alternative, feel free to "contribute" to the thread with Input Based on FACTS (and not Random BS and Misguided Assumptions).
Best of luck in whatever you decide.
Carry on and Godspeed.

 

Very good post, RF.

There is something going on with the youth today.
Social media can radicalize people.
Kids getting bullied have access to guns.
Teenage Girls are killing themselves over bullying on Instagram.
No answers here...Ya got me...

 

So you don't read what you post then? And you find that this improves the efficacy of your rhetoric? Do tell.

 

IF the parents are charged, the Prosecutor is going to have to get "creative".

Because Michigan is not among the 14 States with Negligent Storage Laws.

14 States Have Laws Imposing Criminal Liability when a Child Gains Access as a Result of Negligent Storage of a Firearm: Fourteen states (California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Rhode Island, and Texas)

 

When I was an LEO, the last thing I would do is consider judging someone on whether or not the looked like they would kill people, unless they had obvious signs of having a violent past.

Kids and adults have been killing each other since the dawn of man. If there is one thing society is doing to make more of these things happen it's celebrating being a criminal. Here's a little shooting that occurred where the family celebrated the kid after getting out of jail.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/school-shooting-reported-at-timberview-high-school-in-arlington

There's your problem.**** family.

 

They were both just charged with 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter each.

 

I know.
And, 2 Days Ago, MI AG Nessel Called It:

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel told the Free Press on Wednesday state laws are opaque when it comes to holding an adult accountable for a minor using that adult's gun in the commission of a crime.
While she believes the state Legislature needs to update the law, prosecutors in the past have used a range of charges against adults.
"We don't have specific laws on the books that speak to that, like they have in other states," Nessel said.
"Theoretically, if you had a case where you had a teenager who had demonstrated some sort of instability, mentally or suicidal or homicidal thoughts or actions, or anything to that extent, and in addition to that you still allowed this child to have unfettered access to a weapon, then theoretically I don't think it would be a huge stretch to charge the parents with involuntary manslaughter under those circumstances."

 

The article points out that it is often impossible to determine cause of death when the bodies are left to rot before the autopsy. I think you can figure this out. Surely you know that crime stats are fudged in the UK.

 

Well, the education system in the US is an epic failure, and the schools are very like prisons without enough armed guards to prevent violence. The entire obsolete system should have been scrapped decades ago.

But then there is big money in the school/prison industry. Don't expect much reform.

 

From the first picture it seems that he was not one of the cool kids. So, for once, he wanted to look powerful, cool and feared. The gun gave him that opportunity. Probably couldn't think past the next day and of the consequences, like most early teenagers. I have two kids, one in MS and one in HS. Middle school and junior high are probably the places where you find the worst in humanity. it can make you despair how some of these kids treat each other. Sometimes, you also find the best of humanity. That's why teenage hood and MS are such weird places, that everyone wants to forget asap when they grow up. Easy accessibility of guns is the LAST thing those kids, who are trying to find themselves, need.

 

Personally, I think that it's a lack of extra-curricular activities offered (or encouraged) at schools. What do schools teach or promote that give kids a sense of pride in themselves? As these activities get defunded and removed, the kids just have nothing more to do than to sit at home and become more and more socially removed. But, I can't say that I know the answer. My own son boggles my mind. He's just not interested in anything.

 

LOL That does not mean that they suspect a crime was cause of death. This is so basic. A stab wound or bullet hole doesn't disappear in two weeks!

And now they are "fudged" LOL. Your desperation is really showing

 

For what I understand his parents bought him the gun. What they probably didn't know that he would the gun the school and use it on his fellow students. For what reason I really don't know. It's very tragic. These school shootings have become very common and you just don't know where it will hit next. Be aware when it comes to your town or city. You just don't know where it's going to hit next.

 

What I believe is that his parents bought him that gun and what I think is that the Parents ought to be charged as well. Whether that happens or not will be another matter.

 

What does being white have to do with the cities I mentioned?

 

Yup.
The Oakland County DA agrees with you.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cing-involuntary-manslaughter-charges.594827/

 

The parents in this case do not have a leg to stand on despite the fact that Michigan has no gun security laws. They bought the gun as a Christmas present for their son despite the fact that they knew e had severe animosity to many of his school mates.They might as well have loaded the weapon for him to use.

 

Here are the parents of the Kid Ethan Crumbly. They ought to be charged as well. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

 

Only if there is an applicable statute and the prosecutor can convince a grand jury that the parents violated it.

One thing we should all know by now - we do not know even half of truth at this point, and much of what is reported will be proved false.