TRAIN WRECK: Despite Constant Media Backing – Biden Approval Down to 36%

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    or one can ignore the polls one doesn't agree with. Which seems to be your case. RCP averages all polls, which tends to eliminate or at least softens the effect of outliers. In case you didn't know, The Trafalgar group is a Republican Party polling firm. which by your criteria shouldn't be counted or as you said worthless.

    Trafalgar has gotten some races correct where other polling firms missed them, but the reverse is also true, Trafalgar has missed some elections where other polling first got them right. I think what I can't underst and or perhaps I do, is how and why folks will only choose or pick the polls they get the results they want while totally ignoring the others. I think that is because it is exactly what they want to hear.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I look at the samplings to determine if the poll is credible
    the sampling needs to be inline with the correct political make up of society
    right now it is Dems 37%, GOP 36% & Unaffiliated Voters at 27%
    any poll that deviates from that is a skewed poll
    most liberal pollsters over sample democrats by 5 points or more
    with RCP majority of pollsters used in its average are liberal democrat over sampling pollster there for their results are skewed
    use skewed date in your average you get a skewed result
     
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  3. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I beg your pardon. It's or at least as of 19 Oct 2021 26% Republican, 26% Democratic, 44% independent or non-affiliated.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
     
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    The attempts to subvert democracy took place well before January 6th. I argue that event was the culmination of the entire four years. Democrats wanted Trump to try something, anything to prove them right about him being a Hitler and he finally did something akin enough. But what could've happened if there had been cooperation at any point, prior to that?

    We wasted four years, and the democrats did not defend democracy, but helped push it to its death knell.
     
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    You must have stepped away from politics through Obama’s entire two term presidency.

    It isn’t the Democrats that call themselves the party of no or chuckle for shutting down processes enshrined in the constitution.

    It is fascinating you just wrote what you did.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    Please. President Obama was never under investigation for something that not only didn't he do, but we found no evidence suggesting that it ever happened. The damocles that was put over Trump before he even became President, put January 6th into motion.

    Democrats are largely responsible for the state of affairs we find ourselves in today. They are wholly responsible for the collapse.
     
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    I will simply have to disagree

    Russian collusion was found and proven and involved people very close to trump and his campaign. You can shut your eyes really tight and act like trump was a bastion of morality and integrity but his prior financial crimes, frauds and embezzlement shows otherwise
     
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    And same to you, it was never found nor proven nor involved anyone within the Trump campaign. And that's per the Mueller report.
     
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    Good guess,:,-)
     
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    I don’t think he’ll be consciously aware of his surroundings in 2024. I’m not even sure he is now.
     
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    So.......that would be a conspiracy theory essentially absolving Don. Imagine my surprise.
     
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    Conspiracy theory? You've been calling the guy Hitler from the moment he went down his little escalator in what used to be called Trump Tower.
     
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    So you're going with #2. Maybe it's because he eats babies, is afflicted with dementia, has sex with kids, is solely responsible for global supply chain problems and consequent inflation, is forcing people to be vaccinated at gunpoint, and wants to take everyone's guns away.

    Good choice.
     
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    Is that what you hear when people speak of his documented authoritarian tendencies?
     
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    Yeh, pretty much. But hey, he’s got great hairy legs kids love to rub, so he has that.
     
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    Always subtract at least 10 points from any Democrat's approval numbers to adjust for MSM polling bias and the well documented "polling blind spot".
     
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    As I've learned all too well you folks are going to believe what you want whether there is any evidence to back it up or not.
     
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    I think we might have that in common with the Trump haters.
     
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    I was going to write, any time you'd like to have a debate to see who is in possession of the facts, please begin. But then right wing media has created an alternate reality to which many cling so I suspect trying to prove who is right on this kind of format is futile.
    But if you'd like to try to support your claim that Biden isn't aware of his surroundings please proceed.
     
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    You’re right, there isn’t going to be agreement on this.

    As for Biden, it’s not provable either way. It’s my opinion based on observation, and knowing his political history. To me he appears to be a fraudulent poser, a political opportunist who’s grown less principled and less coherent over time. There is nothing positive to be said of the man.
     
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    Still shows dems and reps even not dems plus five or more like liberal polls do
     
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    I sincerely appreciate you acknowledging your inability to be objective as to what is real and what is not. It saves time.
     
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    Why thank you.
     

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