Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?

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  1. Pred

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    No. Like Shadow also mentioned it’s adjusting for a more apples to apples comparison. It’s a more nuanced and intelligent analysis. You understand this, but you’re just playing games. You know the stats. You know where the majority of the violence is concentrated. You can’t ignore these facts. The main cause is economic, but it’s also cultural. Poor white people do not commit the same proportion of crime or murder as poor blacks or Hispanics. You can of course choose to ignore all this and blame it on racism because it’s easy and doesn’t require any brain cells. But that’s on you.
     
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    I would certainly check the bonus boxes that I could.
     
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    Hispanic is not a race. I thought everyone knew this by now, but I guess not.
     
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    I think because, in the US, the citizens are much freer than elsewhere.

    (Too) much freedom means much abuse of freedom, which often leads to criminal acts. So I conclude there's a lower crime rate in totalitarian countries with almost no liberty (except state terrorism).
     
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    Maybe we hate each others freedoms, like the Iraqis hated our freedoms.
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Tell that to the people who put the "Hispanic/Latino" checkbox on college applications.
     
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    What you are implying, though I do not think you intend to be doing so, is that it is the huge WEALTH GAP, in the U.S., which is our incitory characteristic. This gap IS something that distinguishes the U.S. from other first world countries; but you often see large disparities in wealth, in 3rd world countries, which there coincide with high rates of "criminal violence," including, of course, insurgencies.

    So you were kind of on the right track, Kaz.
     
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    I don't have to tell them. Its common knowledge that Hispanic is not a race.
     
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    Has anyone looked up where the violent crimes are happening and who is committing them? Have we looked up reasons? Drugs related? Domestic violence? To what extent is mental illness involved?
     
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    Be sure to let Alexandria Ocasio Cortez know.

    Hispanic isn't just her race, it's her whole identity and special-victim class.
     
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    Inner cities. Young black males. A culture of criminality, and leftists who enable and apologize for it.
     
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    Feel free to believe its a race if it makes you feel better. Black Hispanics might be surprised to learn that they are not black.

    Whatever gets you through the night.

    Mostly in cities, which is true everywhere in the world, although domestic / sexual violence is common in rural areas too. Much of it is drug and alcohol related. Mentally ill people roaming the streets is common too in US, but not as much un Europe.
     
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    Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?

    Guns.
     
  14. Creasy Tvedt

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    If Hispanic isn't a race, then what's this all about?

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    Feel free to believe Hispanic isn't a race if it gets you through the night, but, out here in the real world, nobody is playing along with your fantasy.
     
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    Except that in other ethnically diverse countries (like Canada) that do not have some same prolific gun ownership, there isn't the same level of violence. Make no mistake, there are still a significant percentage that don't like the newcomers, but you don't see the violence in the same degree.
     
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    So if they handed out free guns to every white person in Finland, how long do you figure it would take them to be just as criminally-violent as African Americans?

    A year? A month? A week?
     
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    The love of the sacred gun is the reason we have so much crime everywhere in the good old USA. Have you noticed how many recently are being shot while driving on our nations roadways, being blamed on road rage????
     
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    This country was born that way, via violence and revolution and it hasn't stopped. Tar and feathering, the Boston tea party, etc led to this countries birth. Followed by the Whiskey Rebellion, then war and more war on the Indians that once occupied the lands we now do. Then the Mexican war to accuire more land, followed by the civil war. The outlaws and wild west followed by Al Capone and the gangster era. The mafia beginning in the 1950's and more. Violence is ingrained within us. Even today, if someone doesn't like something, they start a riot, burn things down, kill and injure people. We have kids now shooting people in public places, the people unknown to them. A lot of the time, no rhyme or reason. Bottom line, we're just a violent people. Born of violence and that violence continues.
     
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    Hispanic isn't a race.

    Everything boils down to three categories. Or at least it used to. Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7163193/

    "Using gene frequency data for 62 protein loci and 23 blood group loci, we studied the genetic relationship of the three major races of man, Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid."
     
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    It is not asking about a race. Can you read?

    Ask your mother to explain you the difference between race and ethnicity.

    Correct, except that Australoid is considered a race too.

    Some add American too, but there are disagreements about that. Either way, a Latino/Latina can be of any race.

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    We have forces active in the United States creating violence.

    Any entity advocating for "reformed" justice, open borders without assimilation into our culture , racial "justice", racial categorization, contempt for America's founding and so on is actively promoting anger, hopelessness, justification and encouragement for criminal behavior. Rule of law is a racist concept in the eyes of the progressive. Without rule of law you have lawlessness.

    Now if progressives have control over our schools, and media and major cities...a lot of damage can be done.

    Put a Rudy Giuliani and commonsense prosecuters in every major city, teach correct American History, and the sound basics of math, science, reading and language instead of teaching our kids an anti American culture. Stress that all citizens of all racial backgrounds have the potential of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness ....and the criminal element would be far less.
     
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    I keep saying this over .. and over .. and some listen .. most do not .. two words "Bad Law"

    take Pot for example .. classic example of not only bad .. but illetigimate law .. a violation of essential liberty which does not have support of the "overwhelming" majority - at least 2/3rds..

    Legalization would turn "conservatively" 100 million "Criminals" into law abiding citizens over night .. take away the cash from gangs .. put into pockets of Gov't via taxation .. and law abiding citizens owning businesses related to the industry ..

    You notice that there is not legalization in many nations in europe .. but it is decriminalized -- not enforced .. don't find pot smokers in jail .. Like here in the good ol USA .. were mission one is to turn the pot smoker into a hardened criminal .. by marginalizing this individual .. have them develop a healthy hatred for society .. and so on ..
     
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    Since the topic is basically why is the US more violent let’s explore your post a little. If one looks up the FBI and other sources, you can google dozens of sources, who is doing the vast majority of the violent crimes is these US city’s? Is it Hispanic pre teens? White Grandmothers? Black middle aged professional men? Professional men or women of the LBGT community(feel free to add any other description if I forgot some, I don’t want to offend). So look that up and give us a quick breakdown of just who kind of sticks out there, ok?
     
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    Ah nope when blacks started coming in, whites left, BEFORE anything happened.
     

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