Video shows decimated San Francisco Louis Vuitton store after massive smash-and-grab robbery

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Perfect storm is right:
     
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    YOU moved the goal post, the issue at hand is this RASH of smash and grab criminal acts NOT your normal day of law enforcement. Your only solution is to give up to the criminals.

    Whatever it takes to ensure a civil society for us law abiding citizens and the protection of our lives and property. That is the HIGHEST responsible of government at all levels.

    Again if you want to give in to the criminals and have to move whenever they suddenly engage in mass crimes that is YOUR choice. If you don't want to live in a city that does not enforce the laws and protect the civil law abiding citizens because it will cost you taxes them move to the South Side of Chicago.


    So again what is YOUR solution to stop this crime wave that is hitting us nationwide and has already caused at least one death? Once you allow the criminals to take over it's not going to matter to where you move.
     
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    "faces" because

    "Hildebrand was charged with retail theft in 1993 and 2012, which was why his most recent shoplifting charge was considered a felony, police said.'

    Perfectly appropriate if he didn't learn the first two times it is time he did. No telling how much he has gotten away with and shows he has no respect for the law or other people's property. Will he get 7 years, no. Will he do some time, maybe so and hopefully he will FINALLY learn his lesson.
     
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    We’re gonna spend 10s of thousand a year to house and feed a guy for a 2 dollar crime. That’s ridiculous.
     
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    First I have not read one story where more taxes are even being discussed the issue is the lack of current law enforcement and allowing criminals to just walk away.


    Why, already explained why even a small store they rush the doors. And locking doors at a Best Buy or Walmart or Target, absurd.

    Do you know how easy it is to cut one of those cables? Did you see the Home Depot smash and grab where they stole all the hammers and tools the need to hit the other stores.

    Did you see them smashing the secured display cases with their tools?

    Did you see the hired security guard getting overwhelmed by the 14 smash and grabbers?

    Why do you think they don't do that already?

    I think I have captured your post quite well.

    And now you complain we catch LOTS of our criminals and incarcerate them? Yea we do a better job than other countries why do you want to do a WORSE job of it?
     
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    It's not just THIS crime, he is a repeat offender who will continue his crimes unless he is sanctioned to the point he will stop. Allowing repeat offenders to just keep repeating is ridiculous. The seven years is just the MAX under the law for which he is charged it is not a statement that he will be sentenced to it. I'd give him seven days and about 100 hours of community service and yes make him pay a restitution to the store owner just for the principle.
     
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    It's actually not as ridiculous as the headline would have you believe.

    Did you read past the headline?
     
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    You should read past the headline.
     
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    Surprise! Defund The Police Didn't Do What The Professional Racists Claimed It Would Do!
    It Did The Opposite...Crime Is Way Up In Minority Areas

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/396805.php

    I think we've had enough.
     
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    Since the store the guy took the candy bar from engages in interstate commerce, the guy could have been charged with a federal felony instead of a State crime. The question reporters should be asking is why aren't the looters who are caught stealing from interstate chains not being charged with federal crimes under the Hobbs act?


    Shoe store robber gets nearly 17 years in federal prison
    Man led high-speed chase that ended in stand-off in Savage

    A LIVING DEATH
    Life without Parole for Nonviolent Offenses

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdfs

    The #1 Rule potential criminals should remember is to learn the law to know the consequences of committing the planned crime and to think about if it is worth the consequences.
     
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    IMO, the best first step to keeping the peace in the cities is to allow the citizens who live there to carry concealed handguns without restrictions.
     
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    I'd like to see law enforcement attempt to disarm felons and others in possession of illegal firearms. That would be interesting and very educational for everyone with a half ass idea about gun control...
     
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    Armed criminals will always have a significant advantage over armed police -- especially uniformed armed police.
     
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    *Nods*
     
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    Criminals know that crime pays well.

    “... The advantage of criminal skills and experience, or criminal capital, has been observed in both ethnographic and quantitative work and across a number of offense types including robbery (Wright and Decker 1994), burglary (Letkemann 1973;Shover 1985), and drug selling (Sullivan 1989;Padilla 1992). For example, Loughran et al. (2013a;b) found that criminal experience and offense specialization were positively associated with criminal earnings. Similar to females in the legal labor market, female offenders tend to have less experience and are more intermittent in their offending-perhaps due to Anderson's (2005) observation that women's agency and experience gained in the illicit market empower her to transition back into future conventional work more readily than males. ...

    ... Relatedly, opportunities in the illegal market are heavily, if not entirely, reliant on informal social connections. Criminal social capital is hypothesized to provide more lucrative opportunities and has been shown to be positively associated with illegal earnings (Loughran et al. 2013a, b;McCarthy and Hagan 2001).”
    When Crime Pays: Capital, Competence, and Criminal Success, March 2001Social Forces 79(3):1035-1060, DOI:10.1353/sof.2001.0027, Authors: Bill Mccarthy, University of California, Davis, John Hagan, Northwestern University
    https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Pays_Capital_Competence_and_Criminal_Success

    IMO, the current criminal justice system, especially the incarceration industry, is just another failed obsolete boondoggle that should be liquidated ASAP.
     
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    What would you call it:
     
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    Would this be enough:
     
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    Yes, it's time:
     
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    The Criminal Coddlers Within The Left are OK with rising violence in your neighborhood as part of their experiment with public safety.

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    "Leighton Woodhouse, a writer who lives in Oakland, describes what it’s like living through the increasing violence in the city and the equally shocking lack of coverage it receives as people get used to a situation that should be intolerable."
    Nothing like waiting until the last moment.
    That's not all:
    We have folks within the Left has these deadly abstract concepts that they claim will advance their utopian fantasy, they instead are a dystopian nightmare, which the evade responsibility as they shift lanes and madly pursue their utopian fantasy from another angle. Lather, rince, repeat. Don't trust them with power, do not authorize them as representatives.
    Folks bought a load of crap, and now there's a butcher's bill:
    Naivety isn't cute or innocent, it's deadly foolish.
     
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    That may all be spillover from San Francisco:
     
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    They've turned a First World city into a 3rd world **** hole.
     
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