What say you regarding 1/6 prisoners?

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  1. Noone

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    You'll never know; will you? Why even reply?
     
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    It's my opinion of an opinion OP in the opinion section of the forum.

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    The MSM has been losing credibility for decades. A few ethical journalist have mourned the decline.

    "Most Journalists, of course, don't like to think of themselves as *anybody's* advocate, but that's most likely because advocacy of elite interests comes so easily that it scarcely seems like bias at all." Jonathon Cohn, quoted by James Fallows in "Breaking The News," 1996, at p. 79. (emphasis Cohn's)
     
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    The only serious "insurrectionists" on 1/6 seem to have been working for the FBI/DOJ/XYZ...

    “This individual piqued my curiosity on the day of the Capitol Riot. When he was identified and interviewed after the insurrection, I eagerly awaited his arrest. The evidence I was sitting on seemed to indicate that this individual was a leader of some organized plot to overrun the Capitol. What has come out in the news this week, which is full tilt right-wing conspiracy theory spin, has me re-thinking my assumptions...

    FACT: The night before the Capitol Riot, Ray Epps told Trump supporters on the streets of Washington, D.C. “We need to go IN to the Capitol.”

    Disagreement between trump supporters in #dc pic.twitter.com/TFYNSNtFJq

    — Miss N0b0dy (@MissN0b0dy1) January 6, 2021

    FACT: Moments before barriers were initially breached, Ray Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before his assault of a Capitol Police Officer:

    IMPORTANT: this is exact moment the siege of the Capitol building began as the two men in front ripped down a preliminary barrier & rushed officers who were behind a 2nd barrier

    They then encouraged others to follow their lead. Officers appeared to be taken completely off guard pic.twitter.com/LE0a01PXBi
    — ELIJAH SCHAFFER (@ElijahSchaffer) January 6, 2021

    FACT: After the insurrection the FBI assigned James Ray Epps the number AFO#16 and the Sedition Hunters labeled him #Fedboomer. Sometime in the months since, the FBI removed photo #16 from their website…”

    The Curious Case Of James Ray Epps AFO#16 AKA #FedBoomer... Everything Is Not Always As It Seems, PvtJarHead, Sunday October 24. 2021.
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ond-Epps-Not-Everything-Is-Always-As-It-Seems
     
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    So you have no evidence to support your preposterous claim. Got it.
     
  7. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Physician, heal thyself... beatinoff_zps3b07b48c (1).gif
     
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    You quoted only partial list of President accomplishment, I would add even more:

    He thinks people who broke into the Capitol are ‘special’ and he ‘loves them’

    Even President Trump is a billionaire and he received donations of over quarter of billion dollars he didn’t spent any money to help his gullible supports

    He helped Chinese ZTE corporation:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/15/17355202/trump-zte-indonesia-lido-city

    He helped his own and other hotels to get rid of expensive American workers and to hire foreigners:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/20/16003254/trump-h2b-visa-program

    He helped poor American lobbyist:
    https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/lobbyists

    He convinced his base that PERMANENT 14% tax cut he made for himself and his wealthy friends was not good for him but 2-4% TEMPORARY tax cut for American workers was very good for them:


    He forced Obama to play less golf:


    He drained the Washington swamp:
    https://news.yahoo.com/every-trump-campaign-administration-official-210841129.html


    And much, much more.
     
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    Send them to Gitmo with the rest of the terrorists.
     
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    What's the punishment for sedition and insurrection?
     
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    the 1-6ers were attacking cops very violently, breaking in doors and windows, chanting to hang the Vice President, not nice people
     
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    Cheese and Rice! Did you watch any of the video reports? The insurrectionists were violent outside, inside and every where in between. And armed to the teeth everywhere they went.

    Take 40 min. and educate yourself on the violence the Capitol Police were up against that day.

     
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    Ditto... 1584414804.3941-smiley.gif
     
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    I endeavor to write clearly and concisely so that my words are not misinterpreted but did poorly with this sentence: “The 1/6 rioters were not armed, but some of the ANTIFA and BLM rioters were.” Its first clause was referring to those who rioted in the Capitol Building. Its second clause was referring to participants in the ANTIFA and BLM riots. Also, when I said “armed,” I was referring to carrying one or more firearms. (Practically anything can be a weapon.)

    There was and is misleading, false, and contradictory information out there about 1/6. For example, immediately after 1/6, the police officer’s death was widely attributed to an assault with a fire extinguisher. It was later reported and confirmed that he died of natural causes.

    I read some of the links in this thread; bias was evident upon their scrutiny. Sentences lacked pivotal details or qualifiers, and there are still old and inaccurate reports of the incident online and references to court fillings yet to be decided.

    Bias resides in both right-leaning media and the more prevalent left-leaning media: Discerning the truth is often difficult. Usually, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I doubt we will ever know precisely all that happened on that terrible day.

    Note* I have yet to see one left-of-center person acknowledge the gravity and tragedy of ANTIFA and BLM riots.
     
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    "The Capitol Police stepped aside and let the rioters in."

    are you saying Trump supporters wearing a badge, let violent Trump supporters pass
     
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    And now it appears you are doing the same, rejoicing in their unlawful imprisonment.
     
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    Marjorie, is that you?
     
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    See my post that is four from this one.
     
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    Nice try. I am ready to debate in good faith when you are ready to present your evidence in support of your position. Until then, I graciously accept your concession.
     
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    I didn't notice t before, but I just guffawed at your definition of rectum. Can I use it?
     
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    At least 9 people have been charged with possession of firearms. I've read that at least two off-duty law enforcement or former military carried their weapons into the Capitol Building, I am looking for that link. Most of the 2020 rioters that had gun charges against the were white supremacist counter-protestors, exemplified by the rioters that entered State Capitol's brandishing their guns.

    I really don't understand the significance of whether they brought guns into the Capitol Building or not; the insurrectionist AbsaByGodLutely brought firearms to the Capitol; along with pipe bombs and enough ammunition to shoot every one of OUR elected officials 5 times. But, to claim that the insurrectionists were unarmed, when they had everything from pointed poles to high-powered tasers, including hammers, baseball bats and rebar, is totally disingenuous.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/

    Officer Sicknick was a healthy and fit 42 year old that would undoubtedly still be alive today had he not been attacked with Bear Spray, by two insurrectionist who have been charged for the attack, not many humans die of stroke at 42 ... NATURALLY.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/04/19/9888...ck-died-of-natural-causes-medical-examiner-ru

    Benedict Donald and his minions are doing everything they can to obstruct the investigation into the January 6th insurrection he instigated; so you may be right, if he has his way We the People may never know what happened on that terrible day.

    Note* This thread isn't about the totally unrelated riots of 2020, which, by and large were instigated by Right Wing Opportunistic Anarchists.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/
     
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    OK
     
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