Kremlin: Putin to seek guarantees over Ukraine from Biden.

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    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kremlin-putin-to-seek-guarantees-over-ukraine-from-biden-1.5692080

    Vladolf Putler can stick those "seek guarantees " up his a$$. He almost sounds desperate and boxed in .....his drugged up conscripts on Ukraine border doesn't seem to be doing the ...intimidation thing....the migrant thing with Belorussia is a disaster....and Sea Breeze in June basically pi$$Ed all over Russki Navy. DPR is a lawless "Abkazia" so to speak....Crimea is going dry. 90K invasion force won't cut it....Mafialand would need 500k or more....and the casualty rate for the Russki vatniks would be through the roof.

    Ukraine has come a long way with Nato interoperability....some of it irreversible....Nato membership is a case of when not if....little Botox shrimp can rotate on it.:)).
     
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    You ought to go to work for CNN. The Minsk Agreements....you know....the treaty Ukraine signed and then shits on....commits genocide....and sticks its dirty hands out to US taxpayers and points towards Moscow. It's quite ****ing pathetic.

    One of the agreements, that Ukraine signed, was no foreign troops and weapons. But yet NATO and the US are busy sticking their ****ing noses somewhere it doesn't belong. And all this is Russia's fault?? Russia wasn't a signatory to the agreements. It was Kiev and the leaders of the DPR and LPR.

    The Minsk II agreement, summarized

    1. Immediate, full bilateral ceasefire as of 15 February 00:00. (2015)
    2. Withdrawal of all heavy weapons by both sides, to be completed within 14 days.
    3. Effective monitoring regime for the ceasefire and withdrawal of heavy weapons by the OSCE.
    4. Launch of dialogue on modalities of local elections in accordance with Ukrainian legislation.
    5. Pardon and amnesty of figures involved in the conflict.
    6. Release of all hostages and other illegally detained people, based on the 'all for all' principle.
    7. Safe delivery of humanitarian aid to those in need, based on an international mechanism.
    8. Restoration of full social and economic links with affected areas.
    9. Full Ukrainian control over its border with Russia throughout the conflict zone.
    10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed groups, weapons and mercenaries from Ukrainian territory.
    11. Constitutional reform in Ukraine with decentralisation as a key element; a new constitution by the end of 2015.
    12. Local elections in Donetsk and Luhansk regions to be held according to OSCE standards.
    13. Intensifying of the work of the Trilateral Contact Group.

    You see #9??? You understand what that means? Does that sound like Russia is invading? Uh, no. It means when Kiev stops their discrimination and ethnic cleansing in the Donbass, then those areas go back under Kiev control.

    The reason Putin keeps saying it's an internal affair of 'Ukraine', is because it is. He doesn't care about the idiots in Kiev, but he does care about the ethnic Russians living in the Donbass.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol
     
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    Uh yeah....carsy...trouble with #9 is....is there is Russki servicemen in DPR....pretty much everyone knows that.....you must work for RT or something.

    Surely you can't be serious that Ukraine is fighting miners and tractor drivers...lol, that can operate BUK missile systems?:))

    #10...yes....remove all Mafialand regulars....and arrest all traitors,saboteurs and send the bill to Mafialand for damages incurred.

    Botox Kremlin $hitnugget doesn't care about Kyiv?....really?...why 90K troops on border then?....are they on their way to French Riviera too?:))
     
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    Vlad needs the Ukraine, it's strategic to Russia, very similar to the warm water port in the Crimea. I don't think it's in the interest of the USA nor Europe to allow this to happen. After all Russia has really become just another criminal mafia state.
     
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    Vladolf wants Ukraine...Baltics, Belorus,Moldova....even some part of Poland....the Botox shrimp considers these as just "Russian".....he',ll continue until he makes a huge mistake....which leads to a "Ceaucescu moment".
     
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    What are you, Ukrainian? Perfect projection right there. Ukraine is a ****ing corrupt shithole. I've been there. Several times. I've been to Russia, several times. When this conflict first started, I leaned towards Ukraine. Since then, I've seen it for what it is....including the illegal coup. I don't support ethnic cleansing/genocide. If you support Kyiv, then that's on your conscience, not mine.
     
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    Such high quality postings never cease to amaze me.
     
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    If that's your take on what I actually posted then I'd suggest reading it multiple times until you comprehend it. If your take after reading it, slowly, is still the same, then that strictly on you.
     
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    Hey if you want to be an expert on Ukraine then surely you know that Ukraine IS a criminal mafia state. Most of the people are descent, just as in every other country. But the government leaders are corrupt as **** and big business is run by corrupt oligarchs born from the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    But you can keep on believing in pixie dust and unicorn farts if you want to.
     
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    Ohh...yes, thanks for the compliment....hopefully you learned something....I'll guess not.
     
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    Something like Botox face Putler and his inner circle....what is it....about 100 or so well connected schneg oligarchs run the $hithouse called Mafialand.

    40+ million vatniks have no workable toilets or plumbing....and almost 80% live at or below poverty line....tells you everything.:))
     
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    And the criminals in Ukraine are generally Russia backed oligarchs as is much of the political Ukraine corruption. Are you saying that Russia is not a criminal mafia state while we are on the topic?
    As for the pixie dust and unicorn farts, you might want to avoid projecting ignorance.
     
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    Simple question. Have you ever set foot in either place? Yes or no? Answer and then we'll talk about projecting ignorance.

    Here's your education:



     
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    Again, your posts are now weakly attempting to change the framing after being exposed as ignorant partisan propaganda. You know it, I know it, your avatar speaks for itself BTW, sorry but try harder as I tire easily when conversing with ignorant posts. PRO TIP? Don't use damp or wet straw for the strawman grasp.
     
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    Vlad von Mini-Biden was to replace rebate the buffer states. Won’t he take a dump when China finds something worth stealing in Siberia?
    Russia is Mexico with nukes.
     
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    Putinski now dictating to NATO --- Keep filthy hands of Vassel State . - Biden will comply.
     

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