‘How will we survive?’

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why does a State or the federal government or... ANYBODY have a right to "allow" a woman to make a decision that is hers, and only hers, to make?

    Not "allowing" somebody to make a choice is the same as FORCING a choice. Where in the Constitution does it say that Government has the power to FORCE a women to make a choice against her will.
     
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  2. Lil Mike

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    Now what was the strawman argument you claim I came up with?
     
  3. Condor060

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    Nope, nobody asked you to explain anything. If you can't keep up, move on.

    You misspelled ability 3 times
    Coming from someone who thinks you don't have a right to bear arms, you should try and explain it to yourself. lol
     
  4. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Oh please. We have all seen your post. You sure think a lot of yourself. I guess thats good since not many here do.
     
  5. RodB

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    Well, sometimes it is, although not near as often as some assert.

    That is so inane it doesn't even make it to wrong.
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The one I quoted in that response... obviously.
     
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  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    YOU did!

    Nevermind....
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    No. Don't see it, so I'll assume you made it up.
     
  9. PanMonarchist

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    If Roe goes down, Heller is put in jeopardy. I don't like it, I REALLY don't like it.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    What's the legal connection?
     
  11. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I agree.

    Maybe a little hyperbolic. But the point I was trying to make is that the reason why most Republicans oppose abortion rights is not concern for human life.
     
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    I can't speak for all republicans, but an abortion kills a living being. You can quibble over definitions, but I keep seeing a child whose life is terminated or who is not allowed to live. The thought of killing that child is obscene.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't see the post I quoted? I recommend LensCrafters.
     
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    Overturning precedent.
     
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    Since when is it a woman's choice to decide whether another human being lives or dies? That is where our disagreement arises. The woman chose to engage in promiscuous sex knowing full well she could get pregnant, covering up her indiscretion buy choosing to have her unborn child murdered isn't cool. It's an act pure selfishness just as the promiscuous act that lead to it was.
     
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    They often exaggerate the circumstances but that is precisely why they oppose abortion.
     
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    I fail totally to see any judiciary connection between the two cases. Heller was an explicit constitutional question. "Abortion" is not to be found anywhere near the Constitution.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Because if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.
     
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    So then we can unplug life support machines because we don't want to pay the bills? The view you expressed is both repugnant and absurd.
     
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    Are they inhabiting a woman's body?
     
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    I don't see any strawman argument I made.

    I recommend Being Logical: A Guide to Good Thinking.

    Also recommend The Mature Student's Guide to Writing.
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    The Supreme Court can already overturn precedent if it suits them. If you're worried about Heller, it's going away once Democrats succeed in packing the court and a proper case comes up regardless of what happens with RvW.
     
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    By her choice. She made her choice when she decided to have sex with some one she wasn't married to.
     
  25. Cybred

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    Not by her choice.
    Answer this question.
    Is having sexual intercourse 100% guaranteed to result in conception. Yes or no?
     

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