About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

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    Of course I don't deny that Germany invaded the areas you mention and never have.

    However, as many armies have found, to invade a country is not to have total control over that country's entire population(1) and since you only have sympathy for Europe's Jewish population, you should know that many countries used German occupation as an excuse to kill their Jews(2).

    For example, just because a certain number of Jews died in Poland and elsewhere during German occupation doesn't mean that the Germans had control over them or killed them so your claim that the Germans killed about 6 million Jews is just another fictition promoted by the same professional liars that duped so many with their human skin lampshade, human fat soap, shrunken head etc hoax.

    If about 6 million Jews had been killed, it would have been reflected in the Jewish sources that reported a substantial growth in the world's Jewish population over the war years?(3).

    Now that I've clarified the difference between invading a country and controlling its entire population, why can't you explain why there are no mass graves at Treblinka if between 850,000 and one million people were killed there according to holocaustian myths?

    If we've been lied to about Treblinka, why believe the number of deaths at the other German work camps?

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    By all means, let the slander and innuendo fly since that's endemic to the Holocaust Industry and holocaustian cult members who believe things that are physically and scientifically impossible.

    The same Holocaust Industry so infamous for earlier deliberate lies immediately slandered Richard Krege who, after 6 days, was unable to find any mass graves at Treblinka(4) until a little later a group of Holocaust Industry approved scholars not only was unable to find any mass graves(5) but humiliated themselves by confusing a tile maker's mark with the Star of David as "proof" they had discovered a "gas chamber".

    So, "Ronstar", why are there no mass graves at Treblinka and why are there so few remains at all the other German work camps if the Germans had a genocidal agenda in which "millions" were killed?


    (1) "Soviet Partisans: The Rag-Tag Scourge Along WWII’s Eastern Front"
    https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2...he-rag-tag-scourge-along-wwiis-eastern-front/
    EXCERPTS
    "Soviet Estimates Showed That There Were Nearly 125,000 Effective Partisan Fighters by the End of Summer [ of 1942]

    Between June and November More Than 800 Trains Were Derailed in Belorussia

    Most Jewish partisan units received little help from the peasant population, which often hated Jews more that they hated the Germans. Nevertheless, they won grudging admiration from other partisan units for their daring raids against German targets. In Belorussia, a unit commanded by the Bielski brothers grew to include about 1,200 fighters, while another unit, led by Shalom Zurnin, had about 800 Jews." CONTINUED


    (2) "1946 US report said ‘Poles persecuted the Jews as vigorously as did the Germans’"
    "Post-war declassified State Department document found long history of Polish anti-Semitism before, during and after Holocaust"


    https://www.timesofisrael.com/1946-...ed-the-jews-as-vigorously-as-did-the-germans/

    EXCERPT "A US State Department report from May 15, 1946, found “evidence that Poles persecuted the Jews as vigorously as did the Germans” during the World War II Nazi occupation of Poland." CONTINUED


    (3) "Was there Really a Holocaust?"
    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm

    EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED


    (4) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED


    (5) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED
     
  2. Ronstar

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    I never stated the 6 million or so Jews were killed ONLY by the German Nazis. The Fascists in France, Ukraine, Romania, Croatia, Slovakia, definitely helped the slaughter and definitely share some blame.

    The Nazis had just as much control over Ukraine, western Russia, eastern Poland, Croatia, Slovakia, as they had over western Poland, Austria, northern France, Denmark, Belgium. The only difference was date of invasion.

    3 years of rule since Operation Barbarossa led to millions more dead Jews. The Nazis were very good at killing.

    [​IMG]

    For the record, the above list shows millions of Jews in Axis nations, Fascist states allied with the Nazis, nations that the Nazis ruled for 3 years after Operation Barbarossa, Allied nations, and neutral countries.

    Romania, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary, Italy, had 1.3 million Jews. They were Fascist states, allied with Hitler.

    Ukraine, eastern Poland, had 3.4 million Jews. Run by the Nazis for 3 years.

    That's 4.7 million Jews under Nazi/Fascist rule for 3+ years, in addition to the 4.5 million Jews in the expanded Reich and western occupied nations. 9.2 million in total. And keep in mind Hungary, Croatia, Italy, Slovakia, eventually were under full Nazi rule.
     
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    I don't recall smearing anyone and am sorry if I did.

    However, to falsely accuse, persecute and even execute so many members of only one nationality so harshly for crimes they did not commit you are clearly exhibiting hostility toward that country's people.

    Younger Germans not even alive during the war are still paying off the corrupt Holocaust Industry(1), (2) for psychiatric therapy for the adult children of holocaust survivors(3).

    It looks like what is possibly history's most extensive and grotesque swindle will go on forever and to support that swindle in any way is being hostile to today's Germans. Thats how holocaustians are being anti-German.

    Attempting to look at WW 2 and the holocaust objectively with an open and critical mind has nothing to do with hating Jews. The facts I believe I've been able to support just as I've shown you that Wikipedia uses fake photos and dishonest text to promote holocaustian myths.

    You seem to rely too heavily on MSM and second hand stories told by the innumerable fraudulent "eyewitnesses" while the facts I've related are consistent with what real holocaust survivors, soldiers(German & Allied), and regular German civilians have told me over the decades while working and / or living together. When you live and / or work with someone you can tell more clearly if they're being honest

    I feel just as strongly that you should "just wake up" but all I can do is tell you the truth.

    If you keep an open mind, eventually you'll see that the Holocaust Industry is deceiving you.



    (1)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



    (2)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (3) "Holocaust Survivors' Children Sue Germany for Therapy Fees"
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4952800

    EXCERPT "Suit, filed in Tel Aviv, seeks funds to pay for biweekly therapy sessions for up to 20,000 affected by the scars of their parents.

    The lawsuit marks the very first time that the German government will be asked to take responsibility and to care for those of the second generation in Israel and indeed, worldwide, attorney Gideon Fisher said before filing the suit at the Tel Aviv District Court."CONTINUED
     
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    Quibbling over millions is going nowhere.

    What about Treblinka?
     
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    Younger Germans don't care about the HC. It's our government that wants us to feel sorry for the crimes of Hitler and some of our grandfathers.

    Germany must strongly reject its Nazi era for diplomatic reasons. But this is easily possible without having to hate our ancestors, as right-wing extremists claim.

    But lying and believing BS about that time has indeed much to do with anti-Semitism.

    I rely more on science and true history.

    You trust a few contemporary witnesses who had different motives to whitewash Nazi history. Professional historians also deal with these people, but they compare their stories with thousands of other contemporary witnesses and documents in order to get closer to the truth.
     
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    Well, you gotta hand it to @Grau, as he frequently quotes Holocaust historians to support his claims, even though they have testified in court that the Holocaust did happen, millions of Jews were slaughtered and the gas chambers were real.

    Oh, the irony.
     
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    ANOTHER EVASION



    There is nothing "ironic" about occasionally citing Holocaust Industry approved historians in the very rare instances where they tell the truth nor do I deny that the holocaust happened.

    However, I have repeatedly shown that "... millions of Jews" were not slaughtered by the Germans and stories about homicidal gas chambers are as fictitious as the "homicidal vaporizer"(1) and other pearls of holocaustian propaganda.

    I assume you're talking about the time that I mentioned Arno Mayer's observation that more inmates died of disease and natural causes than were executed and the time that Yahuda Bauer "...told the audience that the claim that Wannsee was a “master plan” to kill Jews was nothing a but a “silly story.” (2)

    Now, I've repeatedly asked you to explain how 2 teams of researchers using GPR (Ground Penetrating Radar) and other sophisticated equipment have been entirely unable to find any mass graves(3), (4) when the Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM claim that about 850,000 people were killed there.

    So, my question, that you continue to evade is why are there no mass graves at Treblinka and if the Holocaust Industry is lying about Treblinka, why believe any other profitable holocaustian fables?



    (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (2)"The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed"
    http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/

    EXCERPT
    "In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews;

    – Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested;

    – The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists;

    – The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government);

    – The Wannsee meeting was a planning meeting on how Europe’s Jews should be deported, via transit camps, to the East; with able-bodied Jews being forced to build roads and other labor intensive tasks in those regions;

    – The Wannsee Conference also made allowance for specific exceptions to Jewish evacuation, such as Jewish German World War I veterans; ALL Jews over the age of 65; and ALL Jews working in industries vital to the German war effort, to be released from the threat of evacuation and be allowed to stay in Germany.

    There is therefore, no justification for the allegation that the Wannsee Conference was a ‘master plan for mass murder’ and everyone who claims this to be the case, from Netanyahu down, is simply lying.

    As long ago as 1992(!), Bauer, speaking at a conference held in London to mark the fiftieth anniversary of the Wannsee meeting, told the audience that the claim that Wannsee was a “master plan” to kill Jews was nothing a but a “silly story.”
    CONTINUED


    (3) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED



    (4) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED
     
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    I think Mr. @Grau doesn't tell us the truth. He knows that the HC is real. He plays stupid, but he isn't stupid. He's seeking for the stupid to believe his false claims & stories. He's 100% politically pro-Nazi motivated. :(
     
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    Reposted for truth.
     
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    You can't show that like anyone can't show that. It's simply impossible. It's impossible to wipe away all traces and evidence. The Nazis declared Jews as the main danger to the Aryan race and developed the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" which includes mass murder.

    Things like a "homicidal vaporizer" are nonsense. You conclude by that, that all statements about the HC are wrong. But it isn't so. It's only your personal logic error. :(
     
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    Germany is unfortunate to still be under foreign occupation; the US Military and the international Holocaust Industry.

    Why believe myths you cannot even defend just because foreign occupiers tell you to? I feel sorry for anyone whose occupiers have stripped them of the International right to free speech.

    Re:
    I have repeatedly asked you to show anywhere where I have lied either in this or any thread and you have been entirely unable to do so.
    Additionally, I have asked you and @Ronstar to show where I have made any slanderous remarks about people of the Jewish faith and neither of you have been able to do so.

    Facts are simply facts and the dishonesty exhibited by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry is in no way a reflection on the world's Jewish community as a whole. There are crooks, liars and mass murders in all ethnic, relious and national groups.

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    No, you simply regurgitate scientifically impossible myths, residual Allied propaganda and canned nonsense produced by the Holocaust Industry.

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    I am, evidently, quite a bit older than you and all the holocaust survivors, German and Allied Veterans and German WW 2 survivors that I've known are dead.

    Real professional historians don't believe anyone who claims to be a holocaust survivor. Some historians like Samuel Gringauz were eyewitnesses themselves and can detect the enormous number of lying "holocaust survivors" who pollute the schools and other public speaking opportunities with their fabricated horror stories.

    I think that you have not thought for yourself and realized that Germany's WW 2 work camps were primarily for common criminals, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, violent Bolsheviks, Communist terrorists and professional crooks.

    Therefore, real professional historians do not believe anything they're told by everyone who claims to be a holocaust survivor.

    For example:

    "Dubious testimony"

    "French historian Germain Tillion, a specialist of the Second World War period, has warned that former camp inmates who lie are, in fact, very much more numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the concentration camp world -- well designed, alas, to stimulate sado-masochistic imaginations -- offered them an exceptional field of action. We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half-swindlers and half fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation. We have known others of them -- authentic deportees -- whose sick minds strove to even go beyond the monstrosities that they had seen or that people said happened to them.

    "Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz, who was himself interned in the ghetto of Kaunas (Lithuania) during the war, criticized what he called the "hyperhistorical" nature of most Jewish "survivor testimony." He wrote that "most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies." /61

    "Shmuel Krakowki, archives director of the Israeli government's Holocaust center, Yad Vashem, confirmed in 1986 that more than 10,000 of the 20,000 "testimonies" of Jewish "survivors" on file there are "unreliable." Many survivors, wanting "to be part of history" may have let their imaginations run away with them, Krakowski said. "Many were never in the places where they claimed to have witnessed atrocities, while others relied on second-hand information given them by friends or passing strangers." He confirmed that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem were later proved to be inaccurate when locations and dates could not pass an expert historian's appraisal. /62

    We now know that witnesses at the main Nuremberg trial gave false testimony. Perhaps the most obvious were the three witnesses who ostensibly confirmed German guilt for the Katyn massacre of Polish officers. " CONTINUED (1)


    (1) "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust"
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html
     
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    STILL ANOTHER TRANSPARENT EVASION

    Again, why have 2 teams of researchers been unable to find the mass graves of about 850,000 people at Treblinka?

    If the fraudulent Holocaust Industry is lying about Treblinka, what other German work camps have either no or far fewer graves?
     
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    We have plenty of neo-Nazis here claiming Germany is still under US military rule because some US airbases still exist on German soil. They deliberately "forget" that Germany is a NATO member and that German army bases do also exist in the USA.
    :)

    You have apparently overslept for the past 30 years. Germany isn't under foreign rule anymore. Even the most aggressive occupation force, the communist Russians, did withdraw.
     
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    Suppose the Treblinka story is completely faked. What does this mean for the rest of the Holocaust? I'll tell you: nothing at all!
     
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    Yes, we know that the Nazis and many anti-Semites believe that "Judaism=Communism", and that since "Judea declared war on Germany", all Jews collectively were "enemies of the state" and had to be punished for their "crimes" against Germany.
     
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    Former Treblinka commander Kurt Franz tells his story (German language only):


    Btw, knowing the German language is very helpful not to become a Holocaust denier.
     
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    I assume that every German, or some other person who hears about the Holocaust for the first time, wonders whether this is really true. And then they do their own research.

    When I first came across the revisionists' writings, I sincerely hoped they were right. But the more I got into it, the more I realized what a huge amount of nonsense HC revisionism is. :(
     
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    We know, for a fact, that around 800,000 Jews were sent to Treblinka from Central Europe during Operation Rheinhard. This was in revenge for the assassination of Reinhard Heidrich.

    There are no records of large numbers of Jews leaving Treblinka.

    :(
     
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    If the Final Solution was to deport the Jews to Poland, how come there were only 300,000 Jews left in Poland after WW2???
     
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    I've already shown one example of Wikipedia's use of a fake holocaust photo with fraudulent text and its domination by Zionist Hasbara trolls(1), (2), (3) makes just another mouthpiece of the Holocaust Industry.

    If about 800,000 Jews were sent to Treblinka and "Very few survived.", why are there no mass graves(4), (5)?


    (1) “Zionist Control of WikiPedia
    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...ls-the-media/429-zionist-control-of-wikipedia


    (2) "Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY


    (3) "The right's latest weapon: 'Zionist editing' on Wikipedia" Haaretz"
    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2010/08/the-rights-latest-weapon-zionist-editing-on-wikipedia-haaretz.html

    EXCERPT"Now the Yesha Council of settlements and another right-wing group, Israel Sheli, are embarking on a Wikipedia battle: Zionist editing on the Web-based encyclopedia.

    The course was designed to teach how to register for, contribute to and edit for Wikipedia."CONTINUED


    (4) “Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves”
    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php

    EXCERPT “A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.” CONTINUED



    (5) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363

    EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves.” CONTINUED
     
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    Then, why have you been entirely unable to refute any of the facts I've related that show that the standard holocaust narrative is fraudulent.

    Since you don't want to get locked up for "denying the holocaust", you have to spout holocaustian mythology.
     
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    maybe you should cease posting links to Islamist extremist anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish hateful websites.

    but Im not surprised.
     
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    No, Vladimir Putin said that the early Soviet government was at least 80% Jewish(1). To know the fact that the leadership in early Bolshevik / Communist party was predominantly Jewish(2) does not make one a "Nazi" or an "anti Semite".

    It is simply knowing an irrefutable historical reality.

    Additionally, knowing the fact that "Judea declared war on Germany" in 1933 (3)doesn't make one a "Nazi" or an "anti Semite" either because the leadership of the world's influential Jewish Organizations did indeed declare war on "New Germany" or rather a "....holy war against Hitler's people."(4)


    • "The whole of Israel throughout the world is uniting to declare an economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany has revived the old war symbol of Judas to new life. Fourteen million Jews scattered over the entire world are tight to each other as if one man, in order to declare war against the German persecutors of their fellow believers.
      The Jewish wholesaler will quit his house, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his business, and the beggar his humble hut, in order to join the holy war against Hitler's people."(4)

    This international declaration of war against "Hitler's people" came long before Germany's National Socialist (NS) government put any restrictions German Jews.

    Being aware of this reality, too, does not make one a "Nazi" or an "anti Semite". It simply provides the missing context behind Germany's NS government's decision to put restrictions on some members of Germany's Jewish population.

    Meanwhile, other German Jews rose to the highest ranks in Germany's NS government(5) as 150,000 Jews served in Hitler's military with many Jews rising to the highest ranks and receiving Germany's highest military honors.(6)

    So, while gullible "Hollywood educated" rubes have been led to believe that every Jew under German occupied Europe was just one step away from the mythical "gas chambers", the Red Cross reports that most Jews: "...remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free civilian population."(7)


    (1) “Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish”
    https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/...st-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish-317150

    EXCERPT “Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish.” CONTINUED


    (2) Full text of "The Wolf Of The Kremlin biography of Kaganovich"
    https://archive.org/stream/TheWolfOfTheKremlin/The+Wolf+of+the+Kremlin_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “
    "That Trotsky, unquestionably the most outstanding man among the Bolsheviks, was a Jew did not seem an insuperable obstacle in a party” in which the percentage of Jews, 52 percent, was rather high compared to the percentage of Jews (1.8 percent) in the total population.” CONTINUED


    (3) "Full text of "Jews Declare War On Germany 1933"
    https://archive.org/stream/JewsDecl...304/Jews declare war on Germany 1933_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT "Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime."CONTINUED


    (4) "The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany"
    The Economic Boycott of 1933
    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html



    (5) “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED


    (6) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED


    (7)"Chapter IX — THE JEWS AND THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS A FACTUAL APPRAISAL BY THE RED CROSS"
    https://www.historiography-project.com/books/19740000-did-six-million-really-die/d6mrd09.php

    EXCERPTS "Volume III of the Report of the ICRC, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish Civilian Population)…this chapter makes it quite plain that by no means all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps but remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free civilian population. This conflicts directly with the “thoroughness” of the supposed “extermination programme”, and with the claim in the forged Hoess memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing “every single Jew he could lay his hands on.”

    Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey. Ironically, post-war Jewish emigration from German-occupied territories was also facilitated by the Reich, as in the case of the Polish Jews who had escaped to France before its occupation."CONTINUED
     
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    STILL MORE EVASIONS AND THE "ANTI SEMITE" CARD



    Of course anything that doesn't parrot Holocaust Industry lies is "anti Semitic etc etc" but more and more people are becoming aware of what Shulamit Aloni calls "The Trick":

    EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

    And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.”CONTINUED

    Shulamit Aloni
    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1906/S00076/dont-be-caught-out-by-the-trick.htm





    For the fifth time, what about Treblinka?
     

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