Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?

Semantics.

 

No excuses whatsoever.

ALL criminals should face justice.

 

I don't. Until you can prove differently. There's no reason to just take your word for it.

 

Highlights:

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  For the period 2008-12-
• Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).
• Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8-2.5 per 1,000).
• The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.
• Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).
• Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).
• Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm/conte...i/content/data/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137

Only if one isn't privy to facts and data.

 

Completely different definitions of words.

 

You think your link only included a window of time by accident? Why do you think that is? Expand the window. It’s not MY word. It’s statistics.

FBI statistics have everything you need to know. Because you choose to ignore it is not my problem. That’s just choosing willful ignorance.

 

Most people don't commit crime, so one assumes it's very small. I'm not sure how that's relevant...unless you really don't see the relevance of statistics per capita.

 

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You provided no statistics. Especially on poverty and crime.
Believing you would be extreme willful ignorance on my part.

 

Then Per capita is irrelevant

 

I did prove it. I said Switzerland consists of three nations, the Italians, Germans and French (who are Latin-speaking Germans.)

Ethnic divisions:
Total population:
German 65%
French 18%
Italian 10%
Romansh 1%
Other 6%
https://www.about.ch/statistics/index.html

If the data from the Swiss government offends you, then pluck out your eye.

6.2% of the total US Population committed 54.9% of all homicides in 2017 according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR).

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr

But, wait....aren't Blacks 13.2% of the population?

Yes, but that would falsely disparage Black females.

That 6.2% is the sum of 5.9% Black males plus 0.3% Black females.

Another way to look at it is that for each homicide committed by a White, Blacks commit 9 homicides.

Black males commit more homicides than White males who commit more homicides than White females who commit significantly more homicides than Black females. The good news -- if you're White -- is that your chance of being killed by a Black female is virtually nil.

If data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation offends you, then pluck out your other eye.

Um, excuse me, but "multicultural nation" is an oxymoron.

A nation, by definition, is uni-cultural. I realize you don't have a degree and wouldn't understand that.

The US is not now, has never been and never will be a nation.

Well, wait...let me get out my population program here.....okay, yes the US will be a nation about 122.6 Million years from now. I did not factor in immigration, and that might speed it up by a few Million years.

 

OK well that's a funny enough statement that it doesn't need a response from me, I'll just leave it there to simmer!


(it's like arguing with Joy Reid!)

 

Pick ANY income level you’d like and blacks within that income level will commit a grossly disproportionate level of the total violent crime within that income level.

Why is that? Cant be poverty because it’s true for millionaires. Cant be “privilege” because it’s true within affluent income levels. Cant be access to education. Cant be culture because it’s true in every first world nation that keeps those statistics. So why is that?

For the record I’ve never said it had anything to do with melanin. You say that. I have said it’s genetic but it’s not because of their melanin.

 

by all means, provide the crime rate is the same no matter the income level of those with darker skin.

Which gene?

 

I didn’t say the crime rate was the same no matter the income level. That’s a red herring your side uses to try to place the blame on poverty.

I said that if you pick an income level... any income level... say $450,000-$675,000. Take all of the total violent crime from that income level. Break it down by race and blacks will ALWAYS commit more violent crime than their total population within that income level would suggest they should.

 

Whatever, provide proof. No matter your claim. Show the data.

 

The Swiss "gun culture" is radically different than than of the U.S. though.

From what I've read the Swiss basically see firearms as tools and nothing more. Like a chain saw. Potentially dangerous but not if used responsibility.

Americans however (men anyway) see firearms above all else as "fun".

 

Wage growth has been in decline in Australia also. It seems that Corporates and business are unaware of what a livable wage means. Mortgages and subsequently rent cost more than at any other time in history. Casualization of the work place has led to workplace insecurity and less people benefiting from workplace health programs. Work/ life balance for most people is seemingly non-existent, all of which culminates in a highly strung and very dissatisfied society!

But wait, there's more! Normally we rely on members of the fourth estate to inform us of the multitude of injustices perpetrated upon the people, but not now days. They are to busy entailed to the meaninglessness of the left/ right dichotomy, dummified into Fox vs CNN ! Each of them (and there supporters such as Newsmax vs The Young Turks etc.) spend too much on air time ridiculing the other. That is not news!

 

Russia is twice as violent.

 

1) Poverty does NOT cause crime. Crime is a choice.

2) So we just have to 'get poor' to be gifted free housing in some nice, cushy middle class suburb? Cool! No need to bother with that 'ambition and honest work' then - ever.

 

Aboriginals ring a history BELL? Australia hasn't even cleared that hurdle yet!

 

Need an example, Conga Park was a super nice place up till the 70's now it's ghetto/barrio and has a 37.02 violent crime index. Once nice yards now oil soaked and two car parking Used to be nice and quite at night and the sound of cricket is replaced with auto gun fire, helicopters hovering around lighting up the neighborhoods with search lights..

 

I think that member was being intentionally disingenuous.

Anyone should know that being a three part mix between German, French and Italian is not the same type of "diversity" that exists in American or Latin American countries.

They're just playing semantic games.

 

And seems the mentally challenged in Australia have no difficulty getting them either!

Mental health crisis: Inside Australia’s silent epidemic | HRD Australia (hcamag.com)

 

I’m still looking for that source as I found it a long time ago. But this helps the point.