Ignorance concerning Covid is taking a toll.

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    557 Well-Known Member

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    How do you know they don’t have influenza? LOL

    The fat person claim is yours and yours alone. Here is my claim again. Nothing about fat people or direct transmission of heart disease. I’m bored with your denial of science and strawmen. I bolded my claim. If it isn’t clear now please get someone to explain it to you.
     
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    The real irony to me is Democrats deny all kinds of things about Covid as well. A different set of things, but science denial just the same. Denial isn’t exclusive to Republicans.
     
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    You sure can make stuff up. I NEVER mentioned diet. Not once. Perhaps you should differentiate between posts from different members a little. :)
     
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    The political agenda should lot even factor in. When it comes to public health........ we need to follow the science .........and recognize that the information will change as we learn more with time. The kind of situation is very fluid. We also have to recognize and acknowledge our personal biases, fears and resistances.
     
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    Who’s science? Officially announce science or all the science?
     
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    The medical science that deals with the pandemic...and infectious diseases.
     
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    I think the problem with these type of arguments where people say what about heart disease, obesity, or diabetes which kills tons of people every year world wide is that if you could develop a shot that could cure or lower the mortality of people with those conditions people would be lining up everywhere to get the shot.

    I am sure you will always find a few extreme examples of someone that would rather be obese and put a tremendous strain on their body than get a magical shot that makes them fit and healthy but I don't think you will have a shortage of customers for your product.
     
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    Vague answer or is it only officially approve announcements?
     
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    Te BIG difference is that heart disease , diabetes etc are not contagious. The are not a communicable disease .

    Invalid comparison.
     
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    The vast majority of heart disease is caused by piss poor diet so you don't really need a vaccine to solve heart disease you just have to eat better.

    So a person with a piss poor diet makes piss poor decisions every single day multiple times a day let that sink in.

    But if that's how they want to live their life c'est la vie
     
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    What are you thinking when you say "officially approved"??? Approved by whom?? The Gov't?? The Medical/ communicable disease scientists??
     
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    Here it’s Fauci who often gives the noble lie. Fear mongering to push a leaky genetic therapy. The hysteria over Omicron is an example. Already widely spread, only the vaccinated showing mild symptoms, and no deaths but fear level high.
     
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    and that totally ignores folks who are genetically inclined towards some diseases......... or live in poverty where choices of food can be limited.

    but again......this es are not a valid comparison to to the virus.
     
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    We still do not know all the facts about this current variant. What would be the purpose/motive for lying about something as concerning to a population n as a a serous contagion ?? It goes to credibility......... so why lie ??

    The information might not be as accurate as it will be when we know more.
     
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    So the doctors and scientists in Africa are lying or is it you never hear about them?
     
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    The problem is when you say people should eat better it takes discipline and a lifetime of good choices. People like greasy fast foods, sweet sugary drinks and decadent desserts. They like big portions. They like to snack while watching tv, working on the computer and most people don't exercise enough. That is like telling poor people they should work harder, get a better education, find a better higher paying job. Why is everyone not an A student? Just study more, spending more time learning and less time party. All those things are easy to say and I am sure 99% of people want those rewards. Good health, good career, lots of money, knowledge and good education but many people do not have it. The difference is IF you invented a shot to grant people these things everyone would take it because it is easy. Gaining the self discipline is hard.

    Getting a covid shot is easy and if you choose not to get one it really come down to a simple choice. Being obese, poor, stuck in a crappy job, bad marks in school are all the results of bad choices too but to achieve them is not as simple as a shot in the arm.
     
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    I think my comparison was trying to support your position.
     
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    My girlfriend got the vaccine. She was fine on the first shot. She had a reaction to the second shot where her arm swelled up as big as a baseball at the injection site, shortly thereafter she developed lymphoma and that's what we are currently dealing with so you'll have to excuse me if I say take your damn vaccine and shove it.
     
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    Perhaps you should not jump into someone's debate without first checking what the debate was about ;)
     
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    Darwin awards to the left of me, Darwin awards to the right...
     
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    :new: ~ Here is some news :
    Novavax has begun filing for emergency use authorization with various regulatory agencies.
    Large studies of the vaccine have shown that it works extremely well, and so far there are no safety concerns.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-kind-of-covid-vaccine-is-about-ready-to-roll

    ~ The second shot seems to be a problem for many. Imagine what #3 will do ... :-?
     
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    it's still the mostly unvaxxed dying then and now
     
  23. FatBack

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    Well she already took the damn shots about a year ago now.
     
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    You just did a long winded post about risk versus reward, personal freedom and choice.
     
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    I have no problem letting those who sit on the anti-vaxxer side of the fence collect their well-earned Darwin awards. Sometimes, rank stupidity is a capital crime.
     

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