Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?

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  1. 557

    557 Well-Known Member

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    Does the concept of diminishing returns mean anything to you?
    Yes. That’s why I specifically pointed out firearms allowed democracies to develop that are much safer than tribal and monarchal regimes where “citizens” have no protection from other citizens or the state.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except that the end of middle ages had nothing to do with firearms.
     
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    Yes, I would like to talk about the actual topic of this thread.
     
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    1st world refers to nations that fought the cold war from the "western" side.
    2nd world refers to nations that fought the cold war as soviets
    3rd world refers to non-participant nations in the cold war.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean "Why is the US the most criminally violent ''First World'' nation of all?"

    Good.

    Go ahead and discuss it as opposed to pestering me to explain a something someone else brought up.

    I offered some explanations for the root causes for the violence, and also solutions. What do you have to say about the topic?
     
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    Oh. It was just a coincidence that people stopped turning themselves into tin cans and hitting each other with clubs and blades at the end of the Middle Ages. Just a coincidence. :)
     
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    no.. isaid "fake news feed" BTW yo9u Leftioes always assume we conservative get our news from Fox.. and I don't, quite them when they prematurely announced for Biden, altgho' Pres Trump was way ahead at teh time (no, come to think of it.. i'd dumped them long before that after that hidious preformance by Chrris Wallace during the 2020 debates.)

    ah , here3 it is https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...en-on-street-21-juveniles-arrested/ar-AARwlH5 MSM is NOT Fox,, is it? Your assumptions have again been proven wrong.. it's kinda a thing with you .. isn't it?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said firearms did not bring middle ages to end, because they didn't exist for another 100 years. Establishing European civilization and rule of law ended it. It took 1000 years for Europe to get back the level of civilization after Roman empire collapsed. And no, firearms didn't end Roman empire either. Firearms became popular when people realized they were more effective in killing people.

    I am not a lefty, but by a coincidence I had just finished reading the bus driver incident, and FOX made it sound like he was assaulted by 21 people, when it was just one boy and girl, while 21 total were arrested in separate incidents.

    If its not FOX, then why does is say FOX NEWS? LOL
     
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    I didn't read the Fox piece the headline was on MSM AND the others where hooting and egging on the attck .. and you are very Left.. thereis almost nothing you ever post that would indicate otherwise.


    I am not a lefty, but by a coincidence I had just finished reading the bud driver incident, and FOX made it sound like he was assaulted by 21 people, when it was just one boy and girl, while 21 total were arrested in separate incidents.

    If its not FOX, then why does is say FOX NEWS? LOL[/QUOTE]Lok at thelink provided..
     
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    It links the very FOX article I mentioned

    On actual issues I am probably more conservative than you and most other populists here. You THINK that people who reject populist talking points, or if they disagree with you on any issue, then they must be "left. That's nonsense. Issues matter. How your party tells you to divide every issue to left and right, is meaningless propaganda. On the issue of guns (the topic here), I support 2A, but you say I am left because I schooled you on history.

    You look at it. Open the link and see what is says. It is a link to the FOX NEWS article. You didn't msm.com provides links to other sources? Figures.

    From your link:

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    Actually your own graphic proves that @Pro_Line_FL is correct. The first question #1 is asking if you define yourself by ethnicity. Ethnicity is used to categorize groups of people according to their cultural expression and identification. Question #2 on your graphic list the 5 races.
    • White
    • Black or African American
    • Asian
    • American Indian or Alaska Native
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander
    The checkbox you are referring to is NOT for race.
    https://www.verywellmind.com/difference-between-race-and-ethnicity-5074205
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Without diversity racism cannot exist. So diversity is the cause of racism. I didn't suggest taking anything from anybody. I simple explained that diversity goes against human nature and should exist as sparingly as possible.
     
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    Humans is a term referring to species. Regardless of race we are all human. (Homo Sapiens).
     
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    So you're saying a "thing" and not people are responsible for racism? Human nature...so we're all "birds of a feather?"
     
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    Oh.. so it does.. point for you then.
     
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    I said that without diversity there can be no racism. You can twist that into anything you like.
     
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    Actually, nations with very little diversity can be incredibly racist, but fortunately there are less minorities to experience it.
     
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    And yet another twist.
     
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    Since when do facts translate to "twists"?

    Ever been to Japan?
     
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    Did this guy kill anyone?
     
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    I understand and I see diversity as a thing. A "thing" doesn't respond people do. No twisting needed to understand that.
     
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    I didn't say anything about a response. I talked about a cause. Try to pay attention.
     
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    Lately, I've noticed you've been replying to my comments to others in order to veer off onto other issues. The inability to stay on point means that conversations with you amount to nothing because you just keep moving. I've responded already to your "root causes of violence, and also solutions." Since I don't agree with your premises, why should I repost my same comments over and over?
     
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    Hmmm. The Middle Ages ended by most accounts with the fall of Constantinople in 1453. I’m sure you are aware gunpowder was the deciding factor—namely artillery. But the Ottomans had been using firearms in battle since at least the 1440’s. Their use by Ottomans is documented by both sides in the Kosovo conflicts with the Ottomans. Firearms had been in development and limited use in Ottoman armories since the 1390’s.

    Firearms/gunpowder ended the Middle Ages because the Ottomans adapted to technology faster than their European foes.
     

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