More cops killed this year than any other year

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    This is Bidens America.

    And crime is up everywhere.
     
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    I'll need a better source than this propagandist rag. Meanwhile, far more police have died of COVID than of shootings. Might want to start caring about them, too, assuming your article is even correct in the first place.
     
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    Ironically the people most harmed by surging crime and a reduced police presence are minorities.

    So the dems policies have harmed minorities most of all.
     
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    You can ask for whatever you want. You aren’t getting it from me.
     
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    Its police killed in the line of duty, not died from covid. The statistics come from the Fraternal Order of Police, a pdf of the presentation is available in the OPs linked article.

    Would you care to discuss reasons why cops killed in the line of duty is record high?
     
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    Thank you for acknowledging that this has nothing to do with caring about the lives of cops.
     
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    Off to political OPINION you go then.

    While we are here. What is the #1 killer of police in the United States currently? hint: it isn’t people
     
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    The PDF does not say that this is a record high. It only mentions 2 other years. The previous year only had 2 cop shootings over this one. Hardly statistically significant. But, hey, this thread isn't about logic and reason. It's about how to figure out how to dance on the graves of dead cops to make Biden look bad.

    I doubt the OP is going to want to cover the fact that, according to the FBI, right wingers have been killing more cops than left wingers. That would be bad for the agenda.
     
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    Heather MacDonald is crazy.
    Her takes are extremely partisan and slant heavily toward the RW, and are not objective (in the least).

    She has argued that conservatism is superior to liberalism.

    The following statement from the link is absolutely ludicrous:

    The left believes that crime is a racist fiction

    ^A Totally Ridiculous OPINION!
     
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    Yup...
    What would one expect?

    GP + Heather MacDonald = 100% Pure Partisan BS!
     
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    Crime is surging in urban areas across the nation. Its prolly due to a lot of factors, but defunding the police and not keeping violent criminals locked up are certainly contributors.

    Even where I live in rural WA the local jails are turning away criminals for all but the most serious crimes, claiming covid concerns. Thankfully we've never had a big problem with violence and we still dont. Theres been a single shooting in my town in the last ten years, and it was between an illegal immigrant out-of-towner vs the cops who showed up to respond to his road rage incident. But this was a few years ago.
     
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    "
    “There have been 95 ambush-style attacks on law enforcement officers this year,” the report continued, adding that that number is more than double the number of ambush-style attacks in 2020. Those attacks resulted in 119 officers shot, with 28 fatalities, the FOP noted.

    The number of both officers shot and officers killed have already surpassed the numbers from 2020 and 2019, with a month still left in 2021. In the full year of 2020, 312 officers were shot in the line of duty, with 47 killed. In 2019, 293 officers were shot, with 50 dead. "

    Can you provide the source for this supposed FBI data? Im interested to see how exactly they determine 'right wingers' from 'left wingers', given their blatant political bias as of late.
     
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    Crime is surging? So far this just looks like a minor uptick in the decline in violent crime that has been going on since the early 90s.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
     
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    And this has what to do with Biden? And how do you substantiate your/the OPs claim that these are record highs? You are ONLY LOOKING AT 3 YEARS.
     
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    The OP is blaming Biden, not me. I personally think Biden isn't doing snything at all except for precisely what he's told to do.

    I already listed what I think are the main contributors- defunded police and criminals not being locked up.

    It seems particularly relevant that 'ambush attacks' on LE are double from last year, and account for more than half of the deaths. Thats not an insignifigant thing.
     
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    I'd need actual evidence before attributing a cause. I mean, just looking at a graph, that is a GIGANTIC leap to jump to a conclusion. And a quick search shows that the whole "record breaking" claim is just an absolute lie https://www.theiacp.org/sites/default/files/2018-08/IACP_Ambush_Fact_Sheet.pdf

    There were 408 ambushes on US law enforcement in 1990, compared to 95 this year. 526 in 1991. 474 in 1992. I can keep going, but if the numbers you and @SouthernFried87 are giving are correct, then this year is only "record setting" in that it is one of the lowest instances we've had in 2 decades.
     
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    Yup...
    At least, it was quickly moved to the Correct Section...

    Just, in general terms (and not referring anyone personally), but in strictly GENERAL Terms:
    You would think that after certain people are constantly having threads moved (and people cleaning up after them) time and again...
    That, at some point, they would figure out the Requirements of Rule 11 (and, what threads go where). You would think.


    What a puzzling phenomenon.
    People that just DON'T Learn.:smh:

    Anyway, back to MacDonald's Opinions.

    Many of her Extreme RW Biased writings have been debunked (and discredited).

    An Extreme RW "Outlet" (like GP), where she can spew her partisan delusions, seems right in her wheelhouse.


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    Not the least bit surprising as gun deaths are at record highs all over the country !!! We live in a perpetual WAR ZONE !!!!
     
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    Democrats built that.
     
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    You are all over the place on this issue. Criticizing police and demonizing them are two different things.
     
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    If you are having trouble keeping up, let me know where you are getting lost, but it is pretty easy to follow. You can start with the fact that the OP is objectively false.
     
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    Lets see, you started out with a false claim that calls for the operation of the mind and have now resorted to personal attacks. It is neither true nor false as it is an opinion. (You're in the opinions/beliefs section)

    The opinion that the left is less supportive of our LEOs will not be difficult to defend.
     

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