US says it will send troops to eastern Europe if Russia invades Ukraine

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are like a cat focusing on a laser pointer, going in the wrong direction.

    Focusing on the minimal threat over the big one.
     
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    Well just how do they treat Europe? The way Europe treats the US? Not all of us Americans patiently sit in front of the fake news MSM and believe the bullshit they brainwash the masses into believing about the EU, Ukraine and Russia.

    Every time I'm in Europe, I see Russians...tourists. Western European countries welcome them with open arms....but the EU spits in their eye with sanctions. Does Russia cut off the EU's gas supply? No. Strange how that works.

    They had a chance and blew it? How? Was it the fake pee pee tapes that got Trump elected??

    I have a Russian visa. Been there many times. I've also been to Ukraine many times. Hell I've been all over Eastern Europe. As Nigel Farage says, the EU is the new Soviet Union. I agree. NATO is nothing but a political warmongering tool that feeds kickbacks to certain politicians at the expense of national security. NATO screwing around in Ukraine....the Ukraine that openly supports Nazis AKA the AZOV Battalion and its cohorts....does nothing for America. First I thought it was Ukraine that was in the right, but that was before I traveled there many times. Now I fully understand we are ****ing idiots. Ukraine is the armpit of Europe. A welfare state of corruption. The Obama administration orchestrated the 2014 coup in Ukraine that has now led us to the current situation. Let's not forget that. Everything was fine and dandy (as it could be) until Nuland and Co screwed it up. Now there is ethic genocide going on in the Donbass.....and your tax money is funding it.
     
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    It's called Detente. If the Russos/Europeans fight each other to the death, that's in the best interest of the US. Not the world/planet/human race but whatever.
     
  4. US Conservative

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    Pretty sure Brandon got bribes out of Russia and was 2nd in line before mobo while Russia took Crimea.

    The reset button, etc is all so cringe.

    Putin knows who Biden is.
     
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    And then Russia and Iran comes in?
     
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    And Biden knows Putin is a punk. Trump idolizes Putin and if he had his way he would turn this country into West Russia and declare himself dictator for life like Vlad has.
     
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    And I don't favor this being a distraction from CCP and Taiwan!
     
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    Oh back to the "old game." On the one hand it was said Trump was going to head us into the brink of war. Then on the other, he was too cozy with our enemies. Fact is, they all respected and feared him. We never had these flank threats like we do now. It is all because Biden showed that he was light in the loafers about the Afghanistan withdrawal!
     
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    they feared him because he is a nut case........and unpredictable. Is that the objective??? To be FEARED??? Like a dictatorship??? Folks (some) were very afraid of Hitler........... Is that the kind of atmosphere one wants to create?? Putin was actually amused by Trump.

    Now the question is : What effect will today's conference have on the situation?? Biden has plenty of tools at his disposal to counter Putin...........so what will Putin do?/ Will he risk it and attack anyhow?? Putin will want to save face .......and the best outcome is to allow that while preventing an invasion of Ukraine. Putin does NOT want Ukraine to be member of NATO...........
     
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    False, it brandons doing. The bidenflation.

    Brandon has genuinely been the worst president of our lifetime.
     
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    I'll take issue with the idea Trump is a nut case...... but I do agree he is unpredictable to our adversaries and that is just how it should be! They are our adversaries, not just competitors as Biden would portray them. The Biden/Obama administration signaled everything they were going to do. They drew red lines and then backed off.

    I like this story about Trump. Che was in a meeting with him at the white house. Syria had violated our red line and retaliation was due. Trump excused himself from the meeting for a few minutes and when he re entered the room he told Che, "I just bombed Syria". That signaled his resolve and we had no fighter jets flying in Taiwan's airspace after that. Playing your cards close to your chest has great advantages. Let your strength speak for itself. "Peace through strength" is how Reagan put it. Peace through appeasement is the call of the Biden Administration. Our adversaries love that and their incursions make it evident!
    Every single administration before Trump has been "appeasers" to China. Nixon thought he had good intentions thinking if we guided China into developing into a Capitalist Nation, they would become a free Democracy. They have not changed their goals. They want to eat our lunch and appeasing them has succeeded their goals.
     
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    Actually, to be fair about this......Russia does have reason to fear Ukraine being a member of NATO. Would we really like the idea of China or Russia in a similar pact with Mexico? It has been pointed out that the Ukraine is a flat land impossible to defend against a Russian style invasion. We can't seem to guard our own borders. Why in the hell would we EVER risk American lives to guard theirs? Perhaps we should give the Ukraine Javelin missiles to deter an invasion.....but let them defend themselves. Don't imply we are going to war with Russia because if we do, China will settle that dispute!
    Biden gave Russia their pipeline while he shut ours down. How's that workn' for ya?
     
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    Trump sent missiles and stymied the pipeline. Obama sent blankets and food. Biden reversed Trump's efforts to stop Russia and is now has to play catch up.
     
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    When a Nation like the CCP has no qualms about genocide, imprisonment for people of faith, and torture for it's dissidents......fear is not a bad thing!
     
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    Folks were not afraid of Hitler. Time wrote numerous articles praising him. He was celebrated here in the States even when he was putting people in concentration camps.

    Trump pulled a Reagan and Russia knew it didn't dare make a big move but now that we have an incoherent foreign policy and a weak President anything goes.
     
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    No need to worry.

    If Vlad the Invader launches another one of his revanchist escapades in eastern Ukraine Potemkin President Bidet will send troops to Poland or one of the Baltic States and mail Putin a stern letter telling him how upset he is.

    In other words, he'll do nothing, just as Obama Biden & Co. did nothing the last time Vlad the Invader made a land grab in eastern Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. military will continue its important mission of becoming Woke, which is vital to our national security and international stability.

    Of course, none of this will impress Vlad the Invader. I suspect that the only thing holding him back right now is either public opinion in Russia and/or the weather, and I won't be the least bit surprised if he seizes a land bridge to the Crimean Peninsula before Potemkin President Bidet leaves office. He knows he's dealing with the same weak, incompetent Leftists that he pwned while Obama was in office.
     
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    That's 8 year old fake news. In those 8 years, if you recall, Kim Jung Un died and Putin was terminally ill set to resign. Why people listen to western media is beyond me. Russia built a nice new bridge over the Kerch Strait...so no need for a land bridge. Nice new airport in Simferopol too. I was there in August.

    The Ukrainian government openly embrace Nazis....they are part of the official military. Your tax dollars are paying for this:

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    Everyone pop along to Opinion Polls to vote on what the West's reaction should be to a Russian invasion.
     
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    It's a good thing for Biden the election isn't until 2024, huh?

    If Trump was an actual leader, he would have been voted in for a second term. Your boy is a ****** bag that couldn't beat an old, senile pervy codger.
     
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    Dems rigged the election.

    Biden is a literal meat puppet.
     
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    LOL, of course you live in a deluded fantasy.

    Carry on!
     
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    False, it was objectively due to brandon being incapable of running a nation.

    Genuinely the worst president of our lifetime.
     
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    As a reminder, the US didn't get involved in World War II because Hitler invaded France. We have even less reason to fight another nuclear power if they invade Ukraine, a country that is pretty low on US national interests.
     
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    If I were you, I'd hide.

    If Biden had been weak, you'd be the first to come here and denounce him.

    But he has been extremely strong against one of the worst autocrats on the planet.

    I guess you would have preferred Biden to pretend to receive love letters from Putin? Like Trump with Kim.

    That's being strong by your standards.

    And the military intervention in Ukraine should not be put aside either, considering that the US strategy of containment has been bearing fruit and weakening Russia little by little for 15 years.
     
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