Trump WH Deliberately undermined Covid Response.

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  1. MiaBleu

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    Trump White House made 'deliberate efforts' to undermine U.S. Covid response, report says

    The report by a House subcommittee investigating the nation's Covid response says the White House repeatedly overruled public health and testing guidance by the nation's top infectious disease experts and silenced officials in order to promote then-President Donald Trump's political agenda.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...Z4yfwYpmcZc555SZtjJjRpOy83uaFg9d/Az+b4S4BAAA=


    How can that kind of behavior be doing what is best for the population ..........by anyone's terms.??? When a POTUS agenda.......(whatever it might be) is more important thatn the population's HEALTH .......... that is a big problem. When a population believe a lying self centered politician over the medical experts............that too is a big problem.
     
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    This has been known for as long as we've had COVID.
     
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    What did he do? The article doesn't actually say.
     
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    Yep! It was obvious from the start

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    It actually does say

    1) relied on “herd immunity” strategy
    2) Delay in organising for testing
    3) blocked requests from the CDC for public briefings etc etc etc
     
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    MiaBleu, can you explain to me what part of Trump's actions during his one term in office and actions since leaving the WH gives you any kind of impression, however miniscule, that he has done *anything* for anybody but himself and/or his bank account?
     
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    ummmm..............NO!!!! ;-)
     
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    and he set the tone by calling it a hoax. and other inflammatory names........ that made the population not take it as seriously as they should have from the onset.

    Lest we forget how he mocked Dr. Faucci .......... which influenced his "followers" to do the same. and ignore the recommendations for containing the virus.

    Again....... his supporters chose to take "medical advice" form their deluded politician...........instead of the medical staff who were trying to inform the public as accurately as they cold given the newness of this virus. (with information developing and changing as more knowledge as gained)
     
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    I know that and a lot more but my reply was for those complaining that there was no evidence
     
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    Those that claim there was no evidence.......Will continue to believe what they have chosen to believe and WHO they have chosen to believe

    This group is not interested the facts and as you have accurately itemized. ......

    They seem to be siloed in their won version of "reality". that is based on the misinformation they have adopted .
     
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    Well, Biden is doing a bang up job. With all of the latest medical knowledge, the pandemic continues to be out of control.
     
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    He can only do so much.......... as the rest is up to everyone to do what is necessary .: ie: get vaccinated and boosted and wear massks etc etc. If folks don't comply with Pandemic rules of conduct ...... they cannot blame the leaders.

    He is setting the right example.......and trying to make sure that the necessary materials are available to everyone.


    If you have better ideas as to how to h;handle a pandemic ...........let him know.
     
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    MB, why on Earth are you trying to introduce logic into this equation? Are you *trying* to give yourself a headache?

    These people don't care. Last year, they stood behind Trump doing everything except leading by example and that exemption doesn't apply to Biden or any other non-deities.

    Beyond that, every single person that looks to their elected officials (either side) for MEDICAL advice isn't likely to be big on critical thinking.

    P.S. I have two kittens now that love to knock everything off every surface and play all night long. I can mail them to you if you just want to give yourself a headache. ;-)
     
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    I find it amazing that the left can blame Trump for people not getting vaccinated or wearing masks and yet with Biden it is, "He can only do so much".
     
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    Trump was not blamed for what you say. He is blamed for calling it a HOAX.........and acting like it was insignificant. He refused to wear a mask.........for ( appurtenance reasons setting a very bad example.....He is blamed for childishly making fun of it giving it what he thought was a cute name. ( a prejudicial and inflammatory name)

    He IS given credit for pushing the development of the vaccine.........and taking it .........and now announcing that he took the booster as well.

    That sets a positive and responsible example. He knows he has the clout to influence his followers ......
     
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    Democrats spent a year campaigning against Trump, telling Americans that if Trump says to get the vaccine, don't do it.
     
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    Yea but we can't take seriously so called "scientists" like Fauci, that pushing useless vaccines on people. May be Trump knew that was a political plot against him.
     
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    Little wonder that the entire Covid response has been such a mess. Mixed information. inconsistent messaging ...... resistance to advice ........etc etc. How sad that politics contaminated a PUBLIC HEALTH situation so badly. It is challenging enough to deal with a new virus that is killing so many.............
     
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    Is Trump that paranoid???
     
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    The Jan. 6 Congressional Committee and media reports such as this are nothing more than weaponized Trump revenge fantasy disguised as “investigations,” political porn for Democrats.
     
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    The pandemic should have united the nation against the virus............. but due to the political atmosphere.......... the divisions are greeter than ever.
     
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    Trump already set the stage, Biden is trying to undo that and Trump supporters are angry about it
     
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    even Bush would have got the Country to unite over Covid and not made it political, Trump was a bad leader
     
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    He did not say it was a hoax he said the reaction to it was a hoax.
     
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    what happened is Trump made a mistake early on, and like with the weather, he just could not admit it and doubled down
     

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