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Transgender UPenn smashes TWO US women's records in weekend competition and finishes one race 38 sec

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Steve N, Dec 7, 2021.

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  1. Kranes56

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    Your study is from 2016. The rules changed after that. I don't think your study is up to date as you think it is.
     
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    I am willing to bet the sports governing body is well aware of all the studies.

    Their decision is not taken lightly.
     
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    If you want to find a more recent one that suggests otherwise feel free to rebuke it.
     
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  4. Joe knows

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    Because people have never made rules based off of emotion? If you can find another study to rebuke it feel free
     
    Joe knows, Dec 22, 2021
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    So! this is Caster Semenya and this is suppose to be a Biological Woman, Uhh! I smell a fish here. He was born with XY chromosomes ( MALE), but some Doctor identified him as female at birth in South Africa and Caster has been running with that ever since, No Pun intended and now is considered a Biological Woman with elevated levels of Testosterone:roflol: He was required by the IAAF to have a Sex varification test, but the results were never officially released. I'm pretty good at pickin the ladies and if I met Caster on a Dating site, my suspicions would be OFF THE CHART
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya
     
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    He's a male and it has never happened and never will. Pretending to be the other sex by looking like the other sex does not make you that sex.
     
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    Then post one more up to date. Did you know the so called OIC rules on testosterone still allow the male to have 10 times the testosterone than the females. That lowering it anymore in males can have severe health effects, argued even the levels now, and does not turn them into females.
     
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    And the political pressure, which should they follow the science or the political pressure?
     
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    I think I cited it already in this thread. Sorry I’m on mobile.
     
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    are you going to apologize to me?
     
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  11. Joe knows

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    Delete
     
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    Are you referring to the article about the Olympic guidelines you posted? The article that says they are ending hormone testing? That is not a study. That actually is ignoring scientific study. They stopped hormone testing and sex testing not in the name of science but in the name of equality is all that article states.
     
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    In that article they also said that they ended the hormone therapy required and the sex surgery requirement. They’re quite literally saying they will allow a full blown testosterone level of a man to compete as a woman. How is that a study at all?
     
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    No, it really doesn't. But hey, you believe whatever you want.
     
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    I doubt this decision was based off emotion. If it was just emotional, then why is a full cis bio woman not allowed to compete in some competition.
     
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    It's not what I believe, it's what they believe and actually are.
    But hey, you believe whatever you want.
     
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    Which political pressure? Are you back to making stuff up?
     
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    According to the article provided by Kranes 56 testosterone levels do not matter anymore. So I suppose that point is moot
     
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    Put simply, when fit, in-form and free to run without distraction, Semenya is almost unbeatable over the 800m. But these are not circumstances often afforded to Semenya, who lives with a condition in which her body produces a much higher level of testosterone than most other women.

    In 2009, on the eve of the women’s 800m World Championship final, it was revealed that World Athletics (then the IAAF) had asked her to undergo gender verification testing. Semenya was permitted to compete in the final and won gold but was subsequently stopped from competing for nearly a year.
    https://olympics.com/en/athletes/caster-semenya

    Did you know, a full cis female runner was not allowed to compete because of high natural testosterone?
     
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    Perhaps that is true.
    The sports governing body are on the cutting edge of the data as new information becomes available.
     
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    I believe in biology. Chromosomes don't lie. You believe in perceptions - they DO lie. Frequently.
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2021
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    You are a biologist? And understand all the workings of the human body including the brain. Where'd you get your degree?
     
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    It was not due to data from what I read. It was more so due to social justice and the feelings of the trans athletes feeling set apart from their real female peers. So this was more so for them and no one else. They word it fancy in order to make it okay but it’s definitely not.

    again.. decisions based on emotion
     
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    Don't deflect. I'm right and you're wrong.
     
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    So, you only have an opinion based on your feelings.
    Don't deflect. The sports governing bodies are right, you're wrong.
     
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