Jesus doesn't want you to get the Vaccine

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, yes, they are the parents of our own antivaxers
     
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    whats crystal clear here is that you have propaganda to sell.



    Israeli study shows natural immunity delivers 13 times more protection than COVID vaccines
    Posted by John Ley
    Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2021
    in: COVID-19, News


    As the Delta wave of COVID-19 continues to decline from its mid-September peak in Washington state, many people are concerned about the declining efficacy of the three approved vaccines from the Food and Drug Administration. The government has authorized “at risk” patients to begin getting a booster shot of any of the Pfizer, Moderna, or Johnson and Johnson vaccines.

    Yet an estimated 745,000 Washington citizens have already recovered from COVID-19 according to the Washington Department of Health (DOH). Their body has successfully fought the virus and has developed not only antibodies, but B and T cell lymphocytes to provide a defense should the individual encounter the virus again.
     
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  3. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

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    And?
     
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    Inforwars!! SERIOUSLY???

    Here are a good number of critiques of what Inforwars (LOL!) is trying to promote.

    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/...sult-in-those-who-test-positive-for-covid-19/

    And, let's remember that you are NOT citing an actual study that has gone through ANY review.

    With only THAT, you want to ignore the constant and continuing analyses of CDC, WHO, NIAID, FDA, and the rest of the world - all of whom carry out serious studies.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    WHERES THE CITATION?
    WHERES THE CITATION?
    EVERYONE DUCK! WILS GOT HIS 3 LETTER ACRONYMS NOW
    WHERES THE CITATION?
    WHERES THE CITATION?


    Who cares about valid citations when theres so much propaganda to pedal!
     
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  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That news was in several sources =

    american faith = https://americanfaith.com/tripled-v...y-to-test-positive-for-omicron-than-unvaxxed/

    summit news =

    yournews =4.5 times
     
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    SOURCE?
     
  9. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Please try to keep up.

    I posted that on this thread soon after this InforWars GARBAGE showed up on this thread.

    And, I'd point out that there is NO reviewed science involved in that garbage. Those who created it are clearly uninterested in science.
     
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    What a load of twaddle.
     
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    No kidding!

    Can you seriously imagine someone going to InfoWars for their medical information?
     
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    what can you say?
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    Does not need a citation for critical analysis
     
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    So far I haven't been able to find an article from the UK government Office for National Statistics that supports the contention in the media. However, it is a fact that England does have a high vaccination rate (70.7% fully vaccinated with over 45% that have received a booster shot) and that it also has a high omicron infection rate.

    Remember what happened about 3 days ago when trump revealed he had gotten a booster shot. The story about the triple vaxxed being 4.5 times more likely to test positive for omicron than the untaxed came out the next day. That story was picked up almost verbatim by assorted blogs and news agencies.

    The latest blurb is that about 60% of us will have gotten the virus by March.

    Now remember, it is acknowledged that so far the omicron version is less deadly at this time although it seems to be more contagious.

    Throw in the outright anti-vaxxers and the other nuts and who can you trust, if anyone?

    As for me, I have had 2 shots and intend on getting my first booster in another 40 days or so and additional boosters as long as able. At some point I may get infected but as long as it doesn't kill me I will be able to look forward from dying from another cause.
     
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    It's been my observation that medicines have the undesirable effect of causing all kinds of other medical conditions although they are designed to cure a specific condition. Therefore, you might have a nuisance medical condition and take a medicine that might even kill you or damage your otherwise healthy organs. Every time you see a tv commercial for a medicine they ramble off a list of possible side effects, most of which are worse than the targeted condition. Nothing is completely safe for everyone.
     
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    SOURCE?
    SOURCE?
    SOURCE?
    SOURCE?
     
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    From what I see, triple vaccinated people are more careless than the not vaccinated. That could explain at least some of the data.

    Assuming, of course, that the reports in the non-scientific media are accurate, which I highly doubt.
     
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    Yeah ... many things to work out as the vaxers figure out why they have become - in the words of the fellow who got nobel prize for Ivermecting -- "Super Spreaders" :)

    But Jeremy Farrar, head of the Wellcome Trust, sees cause for concern. “The evidence that this is more transmissible is getting stronger every day,” he says. In the United Kingdom, the number of positive polymerase chain reaction tests in which the gene encoding the spike protein cannot be detected (a sign of a likely Omicron infection) is increasing rapidly. In Oslo, a company Christmas party at a restaurant became a superspreading event, with at least 120 people testing positive; 19 cases so far have been confirmed as Omicron. (All attendees were vaccinated and had tested negative before the event.) In Denmark, 53 of 150 high school students who attended a party went on to test positive for Omicron.
    [/QUOTE]https://www.science.org/content/art...lues-are-emerging-and-they-re-not-encouraging
     
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    Yes, I know the new variant seems to be more contagious than the original and the Delta. But the discussion was about the claim that the triple-vaccinated are more likely to catch the new Omicron variant. There's obviously no proof.
     
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    Not sure about the triple vaxed ...not sure about the "More Likely" -- but the double vaxed seem just as likely.

    Vaccine becoming a joke in Denmark

    Look at the latest Omikronvarianten report from Dec 18.

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    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/denmark-no-vax-is-protective-vax

    A summary of the data from the Article.
    • Only 8.5% of Omicron cases are among the “wholly UN-vaccinated”.

    • Most Omicron cases occur in 15-60 year olds

    • Vaccination Rate among 15-60 year olds is approximately 80%

    • There is about 2% of single-dose not fully vaxxed

    • So, the “un-vaccination rate”, meaning percentage of completely pure blood un-vaxxed, is about 17%

    • Therefore, since unvaccinated people comprise 17% of the age sample, but are only 8.5% of cases, they are approximately "50% protected due to not being vaccinated”. Sounds strange, right? We’ll talk about how it works, later."
     
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    Over at a Christmas party in Norway
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/christmas-party-norway-turned-omicron-super-spreader-event-2021-12
     

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