What caused 1/6?

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  1. Aristotle66

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    Do you support their violence?
     
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    Benedict Donald shouldn't have called his insurrectionists to DC, if he hadn't 1/6 wouldn't have happened.
     
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    Trump said to the Proud Boys, "Stand down but stand ready."
     
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    Prove Trump had any involvement with ANY white supremacists and militia groups <COMMENTS EDITED>

    Trump was just repeating Wallace"s request...

    During the debate, Fox News anchor and moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump, “Are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups” — Trump cut in, saying, “Sure” — “and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland?”

    “Sure, I’m willing to do that,” the president responded. “I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not from the right-wing. I’m willing to do anything, I want to see peace.”

    “Well, then do it, sir,” Wallace said. “Do it. Say it,” Biden chimed in.

    “What do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name,” Trump said.

    “White supremacists and right-wing militias,” Wallace said. Biden also spoke over him, saying, “White supremacists, Proud Boys.”

    Trump, flustered, addressed the only named group, the Proud Boys. “Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” the president said. “But I tell you what, I tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about antifa and the Left.”
     
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    If the security was adequate with guard and full Capitol police force... the Russian and Chinese army could not have gotten through ..But Buffalo Bill can.... Pelosi and her kiddie show should have been on this like drool on a baby... To blame anyone else for allowing it to happen is laughable. Ashli's blood is on Pelosi's hands..
     
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    OK, Benedict Donald has his rally at the Elipse, why January 6th. The Capitol IS CLOSED, why tell them:

    "March down to the Capitol and Fight Like Hell if you want to get back your country, I'll go with you?"

    With the Capitol closed what did he think would have happened? Why would "Pelosi" reinforce Capitol security because of a planned rally at the Ellipse? Why didn't Benedict Donald call for National Guardsmen to be there; the Guard is under the executive branch?

    Ashli Babbitt's blood is on her own hands; SHE broke into the Capitol, SHE marched with a bunch of maniacal insurrectionists to the Speakers Lobby, SHE breached the last barrier between the insurrectionists and Congress.
     
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    No.. and I do not support your violence that folks like you turn a blind eye to....

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    Your statement is not true at all...
    Here is Trump's own words which shows you are not being truthful.

    Trump Explicitly Instructs Marchers to Proceed 'Peacefully and Patriotically' on Capitol Hill



     
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    LOL. A mentally-ill guy in a wookie suit and a cavalcade of knuckle-dragging dirtbags was a "more grave and dangerous assault" than literally half the country taking up arms against the other half resulting in 750,000 fatalaties. Did mommy slip some Owsley liquids in your chocolate milk?
     
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    The violence that took place in 2020 was a very small part of the total PEACEFUL demonstrations that took place. (see link below)
    MOST of the violence was instigated by anarchist opportunists from out of town that were mostly right leaning. (see link below)
    MANY of the rioters of 2020 were white supremacist tRump supporters. (see link below)


    "Who caused the violence at protests? It wasn’t antifa."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

    "AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals"
    https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

    Demonstrations & Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020
    https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/


    For example these guys in Michigan:



    or these people:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALyR1Bl8wY

    or these tRump supporters:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDPpflJEYRE
     
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    "Peacefully and Patriotically" was less than 3 seconds of 4 hours of speeches that encouraged violence repeatedly.

    9:00 A.M. Mo Brooks: speech themed about "Kicking Ass", "Will you FIGHT for America".
    9:45 Crowd expected to exceed the 30,000 allowed by permit.
    10:50 Rudy Giuliani's speech he calls for "Trial by Combat"
    10:58 Proud Boy's leave the rally
    12:00 P.M. tRump begins his over one-hour speech.[73] He repeats allegations that the election was stolen, criticizing Vice President Mike Pence by name a half-dozen times, accusing fellow Republicans of not doing enough to back up his allegations, and stating that he would walk with the crowd to the Capitol, though he retires to the White House immediately after the speech.

    In a speech filled with divisiveness and anger he mentioned "peacefully and patriotically" once that took less than 3 seconds. :roll:
     
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    "Fight Like Hell" takes 1.4 seconds... what's your point?
     
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    I made my point in four hours of divisive anger there was 3 seconds (which is more than generous) of "peace".

    What's your point?
     
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    My point...
    Neither Fight like hell or Peacefully and Patriotically would have meant nothing if there was proper security to PREVENT Jan 6 from happening...proper security and the guards ( which were offered ahead of time).... there would never had been any breach.

    it is embarrassing to think this crew was consider "insurrection material" and within inches of taking over our government....blood thirsty killer they are...
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    OR! If Benedict Donald wouldn't have fostered THE BIG LIE for months, even before the election, AND hadn't organized an insurrection on the day Congress was to certify the election; THAT HE LOST!!!

    The"CREWS" job wasn't to take over the Government. What Benedict Donald wanted was for them to cause enough chaos that Congress couldn't do it's job, giving him an excuse to declare martial law and userp permanent power.
     
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    Not that I know of and think Rep members have demanded it and Pelosi and Schumer refuse. THAT is what needs to be investigated.
     
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    Factually unsupportable.
     
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    What occurred was not a result of lawful hereditary or democratic change. What you described above is a coup. A failed attempt at a coup but nonetheless a coup.

    When legal remedies failed plans were hatched to subvert the system.

    It’s been dribbling out for months. There was planning, Administration involvement, GOP involvement at local, state, federal levels, Military involvement (Army), and it appears our biggest obstacle is disbelief—denial—that something so heinous could possibly happen in this country. Facing up to our shortcomings is not something we do well especially when it involves our so-called “elites”.

    Every one involved needs to be held to account not just the “little guys”.
     
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    Just gonna leave this here... whistle_zpse7930712.gif

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    Meadows on Maria’s show…. Help was offered


    Mark Meadows: President Trump Offered Security Assistance Multiple Times

     
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    Yeah, remember when they sent in troops without any insignia of rank or affiliation; they were worse than the white supremacist rioters, like pouring gasoline on a fire.
     
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    Your ability to flounce, dodge and deflect is extraordinary.

    Since you couldn't answer a simple question, your unconditional surrender is accepted.
     
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    You wait two weeks to reply - long after the thread has died - and this is the best you can come up with? beatinoff_zps3b07b48c (1).gif
     
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    The January 6th event was the perfect PSYOPS. Getting the American people to do the unthinkable. Well, some of them at least. It was the perfect storm, people were hit by all sides, in all directions.

    But, it was one of the road marks on our journey towards a new future. I'm happy to check this one off the list.
     
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    Trump wanted to show that his supporters love him and he called him to Washington. He was convinced that all the country will raise and protest until his rivals would give up. He surely wanted to overpower his rivals.
    I'm not sure if he wanted his supporters to enter the Capitol though.
    It is also very likely some anti-Trump agencies (FBI for example) incited people to assault the Capitol. The case of Ray Epps is very interesting for example. He is clearly a provocateur trying to mislead people. He wanted the people to assault the Capitol but he didn't enter.
     
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