Biden: There Is 'No Federal Solution' to COVID-19 Response

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  1. Egoboy

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    Biden did that!
     
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    Did you care about context when Trump said “fine people” and specified he wasn’t talking about KKK members multiple times? Nah, you didn’t. Did you care about context when you believed Trump told people to drink bleach, even though he never used the word “drink” or “bleach”? Nah you didn’t.
    Did you care about context when he called Mexicans rapists and murderers, even though he specified it was MS13 members? Nah, you didn’t. Since when do you ****ing care about context:)

    You only care about rhetoric and slime and any way to blast the opposition through lies and misinformation. What this says is all the BS Biden and Democrats spewed in 2020 about how it’s all Trumps fault. They can all go kick sand. Biden just admitted what we already knew. No one was stopping the virus. All the federal govt can do is arrange mass production of supplies and have them distributed. That’s what they’re generally “good” at.
     
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    I gave him a pass on Charlottesville, even though he did a really shitty job of saying what he was trying to say.

    Here's the video on injecting disinfectant, which the right (not left) spun to be drinking bleach. There is no spinning that lunacy



    Finally, please show us where he specifies it was MS-13 members in front of his paid audience in 2016

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    Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aign-launch-speech-two-years-later-annotated/

    I seriously cannot believe you are still trying to defend those last 2, at least...
     
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    And KKK members are often agents of the FBI.
     
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    Seems there is some truth in that. Informants for sure. Long time practice. Easiest way to keep tabs is having moles. The problems arise when the informants are the ones trying to organize the chaos to see who goes along with it. But when the chaos gets out of hand, if the informants are the one getting people all riled up, that **** is on the FBI for letting it happen. Almost causing it to happen. It’s entrapment. And then when the chaos is blamed on others, that’s where the corruption sets in.

    Just look what we did with Fast and Furious. Nobody fried for that one.
     
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    For someone so concerned with rhetoric, did it ever dawn on you that all of those examples are examples of rhetorical tools and tricks? That he can say one thing and mean another? For example, why bring up MS13 members when they're only a tiny fraction of the problem, and mentioning them might encourage racism against Mexicans? If what you accuse me of is true, how do you know the context of what Trump said didn't end up making backhanded comments?
     
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    "The FBI sowed dissension in the Klan. It conducted extensive interviewing of Klan members and infiltrated and took leadership positions in many Klaverns. It created paranoia about police surveillance and played on internal disputes. It rendered the Klan ineffective by wholesale assault. FBI informers also joined in the Klan's many beatings of civil rights workers and blacks to protect their "cover." FBI agents, forewarned by informers of impending Klan violence, stood by at the scene and watched when local police did nothing to stop it."
    THE LAWLESS STATE, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, By Morton Halperin, Jerry Berman, Robert Borosage, Christine Marwick, Penguin Books, 1976.
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/Lawless_State.html

    IOW, with the FBI, and secret police agencies generally it becomes very hard to tell the difference between the "benign" tumor and the glioblastoma.
     
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    MS13 is not Mexican.
     
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    Biden's mandate is being stopped in the courts, Biden tried, that was all he could do

    there is no way Biden can force Trump's supporters to get the vaccine, he tried, if they die, that is a choice they made themselves
     
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    Touché but point is still there.
     
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    I think it is a mistake to characterize Trump's style as anything but blunt and straightforward. Searching for subtlety and double meanings will always be a Snipe hunt.

    For instance, there were good reasons for removing the CSA monuments and good reasons for preserving them.
    A conservative or a liberal could easily frame arguments for either action.
     
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    What are the good reasons for removing them? As far as I can tell, a few people screamed racism and, down they came.
     
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    Reasons for removing the CSA monuments:

    1. The CSA leaders were treasonous rebels and should not be honored.
     
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    It took people until now, to come to that conclusion?

    No correlation at all, to the current administration and, all the hatred and division they've created?
     
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    The current administration and its fellow travelers would like to cast its opposition as supporters of the CSA. IOW traitors and racists.

    The need to distract from the inconvenient fact that President Biden, as pointed out by VPOTUS Harris, was a powerful leader of the racist Dixiecrat faction of the DP probably has a lot to do with it.
     
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    Exactly what in that statement is inaccurate? Pretty sure they’re bringing drugs, rapists, crime and some good people as well across the border.

    What he said was factually correct.
     
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    You can technically say that about ANY country in the world then.... why just single out Mexico?

    Also, Mexico doesn't SEND its people to the US...
     
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    I would say that's the problem and that's the whole argument against the way Trump speaks. He's ambiguous because he knows he can play people without getting his hands dirty.
     
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    Being blunt and straight forward, is playing people?
     
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    Let me clarify. It's not straight forward so much as ambiguously blunt. Saying something controversial because he knows it will be received differently in different communities and he gets plausible deniability in what his true intentions are.
     
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    Brandon lied.
     
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    You know what his true intentions were?

    Do you have access to his thoughts?
     
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    That's my point.
     
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    What point might that be?
     

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