A Chinese government spokesperson said the US committed 'evil crimes' against Native Americans....

"The Left?" Are you kidding? What is "the Left" with a capital "L?"

 

Right wing extremists? Like the ones that looted Kenosha? Wait, that was the left. Like the ones that burned Minneapolis? Wait, that was the left. Like the ones that looted Macy's in New York? Burned Baltimore? Looted Seattle? Wait, that was the left. Right wing extremists? Like ones that want proper ID to vote? The ones that fight endless and irresponsible government spending? The ones that want to secure our borders? THOSE right wingers? Oh... ok.

 

You really need to look at the Big Picture. The schools did a lot of harm.

We still have a ways to go.

The CPC are bad folks. Real bad folks. Comparing the U.S. today to China makes no sense.

 

That's what I said. Comparing the USA to China "doesn't wash". That means it doesn't work, its not valid, its not true. Versteh?

 

One example.
In Australia the colonists were under British rule. One of these many rules was as below.
But some colonists, with issues about authority, the British, their class society etc were
intent upon doing things their way.
And later generations of similar people blame the British for their policy toward indigenous
people, using words like 'genocide.' It's one reason for the current Republic movement.

but yes... some white people were hung for shooting aborigines.

 

Yes, the Republican Party has been radicalized, even more than the Democrats. Just like Democrats need to separate themselves from the Squad, Republicans need to ditch the radicals. They especially need to ditch Trump.

No, they're criminals. The liberals discredit themselves by being unwilling to deal with them in terms of protecting the public.

Depriving people of their vote is disgraceful. There are ways to prevent fraud and give them their say. Republicans aren't looking at those ways.

Some of the spending is necessary because the economic system is tilted against workers earning enough to stay in the middle class.

I don't think Trump was ever serious about stopping illegal immigration.

 

Huh?

 

Amazing. Your vagueness is amazing. If you choose to respond to this, please try to be SPECIFIC.

Exactly HOW has the Republican Party been radicalized? I point to the left burning and looting in specific places like Minneapolis, Kenosha, LA, Seattle, etc. THAT is called being SPECIFIC. Oh... the Capitol. here 800 unarmed folks... in ONE BUILDING... on ONE DAY... planned to overthrow the huge US government> Uh uh... ok. One building. Like calling a tiddleywinks game a huge Olympic event. No demands. No violence except for one cop that shot a veteran. Wow... what a revolution... LOL.

Democrats burn and loot. Ask Kenosha. Ask Ferguson. Ask Seattle. Ask Minneapolis... heck... ask Macy's!

No one is depriving anyone of voting... pure propaganda.

Trump was building a wall... Biden opened the borders... WIDE.

 

What's vague about saying Republicans have been radicalized? Or vague about saying Republicans should ditch Trump?

Many believe outrageous and obviously false lies about Democrats stealing votes and themselves support voter suppression. They claim violence is okay to stop government from acting legally. They reject courts interpreting the Constitution. They view people who hold other political views as disloyal. Many have embraced racism, ignoring the tradition of their party. They advocate nativist policies and reject legal immigration. They support economic policies that impoverish millions while concentrating wealth. They reject spending on education and job training.

There's lots more.

Democrats who tolerate and excuse looting, burning and attacking other people are radicalized.

It was a riot by people hoodwinked in supporting Trump's scheme to delay certification of the 2020 election.

It was a riot, not an insurrection.

Criminals burn and loot, not Democrats. That you would make a claim so obviously propaganda suggests you've been radicalized.

Of course, they are.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/voter-suppression

Biden did not open the borders. That's nonsense.

This is an open border...


Franco-German Border

This is not an open border...


USA-Canada Border at Blaine, WA

Why are you spouting nonsense about open borders?

You said you wanted specifics.

 

That was paraquat.

 

Your vagueness continues. "Republicans have bee radicalized"... where? when? how? who? Name names... name places... name specifics... please. Ditch Trump? Why? Specifically... why?

Let's review...

Trump lowered my taxes (I was able to buy a jacuzzi!)
Biden left Americans and allies abandoned in Afghanistan
Trump actually got SIGNED peace accords in the Middle East.
Biden makes COVID restriction mandatory for Americans but not for illegal immigrants.
Trump gave the military its first real pay raise in years.
Biden seeks to restrict the second Amendment.
Trump clobbered ISIS (captured their largest city – Mosul and their capital city - Raqqa.
Biden armed the terrorist Taliban.
Trump allowed terminal patients to use drugs not fully tested that might offer hope.

Biden has allowed the opioid disaster to grow and grow by opening the borders.
Biden killed pipeline jobs and US energy independence.
Trump got us back in space on US-made rockets.
Biden got 13 US Soldiers killed at the Kabul airport.
Trump made us energy-independent.
Biden opened our border... WIDE OPEN
Trump supported the 2d amendment
Biden indoctrinates our kids with racist "Critical Race theory"

Biden has done nothing to support the police as our cities experience tremendous growth in murder and violence.

Biden is causing outrageous inflation.

There was no “supply chain” disaster under Trump as there is under Biden.

Gas was about a buck and a half cheaper under Trump.

People weren’t being banned from social media for speaking their minds under Trump.

Parents counted under Trump. Under Biden (and you, by the way)… they don’t.

gees... the list is endless

Those border pics are on highways. Move off the roads... look at the thousands crossing over in the middle of nowhere on the border. On foot.

 

When the American land mass was occupied by mainly European incomers they did not have to pass any border checks for a long time.
This should be the case everywhere shouldn’t it?
If Capitalism is about the market finding it’s own level, extend it to freedom of movement and let populations find their own level, as those incomers did in centuries past.
When present day Americans say ‘Make America Great Again’ it is clearly a reference back to uncontrolled freedom of movement into the North American land mass.
If ‘again’ doesn’t mean those days, what does it mean?

 

My first urge was to ask if anyone said that someone else said that the US is "perfect" but then u'd ask if anyone asked if-- well, u know what I mean.

huh, this could be a problem. My take is that there exists outside of any individual an objectively observable "good" that can include kindness, fairness, generosity, thoughtfulness --you know the drill. If you can go w/ that then we're good. At the same time I'll recognize that there are many who feel that what's good for one is bad for another & anyone's free to change the definition like it suits him --mid-sentence even. If that's your approach then I can just wish you a 'good' day & we're done.

Maybe once we agree in general on what's good & bad, then we can get into "even-handedness" which is somewhat more involved.

 

It's not a deflection, since the brainwashed Native Americans in their gulags into a white Christian culture well into the 1970's.... without a care in the world how many they killed.

I acknowledge that, and it's on par with what the US did to well into the 1970's.
It's you who refuses to recognize what the US did.
You're butthurt that the US did the same to the native americans like the China is now doing to the Uyrgyrs.

 

The poster you're responding to mentions Jim Thorpe and request you to ask him how it was.Jim Thorpe is dead. But if he was alive, he would be telling you his own brother died in such an American gulag, while he ran away from them as often as he could,... until the authorities deported him 2 states further away. That tells plenty how cruel it all was. Jim Thorpe didn't learn any academic skills in those "schools" who basically were around to make children work for other people's businesses for free aka... child slave labor.

His descendants didn't receive a penny for the cruelty inflicted on them. They only thing "fixed" is that it's no longer happening, but you pay up when you're sorry and admit guilt. No such thing has happened. And so the criticism by China is rightfully made.

Makes sense to the victims of the US government.

 

I do not recall the children of nazi's where brought to gulags to cleanse out their language, culture, and religion out, slave around on farms to do hard manual labor .. getting them killed at high rates. That's what white Americans did to Native Americans because they made the law like that till in the late 1970's. Jews got compensated from being in camps, not Native Americans. The US doesn't even know how many they killed, showing how little they still care about the victims who are still alive. Hence China rightfully calls the US a bunch of hypocrites.

 

I think I identified some of the the issues:

"Many believe outrageous and obviously false lies about Democrats stealing votes and themselves support voter suppression. They claim violence is okay to stop government from acting legally. They reject courts interpreting the Constitution. They view people who hold other political views as disloyal. Many have embraced racism, ignoring the tradition of their party. They advocate nativist policies and reject legal immigration. They support economic policies that impoverish millions while concentrating wealth. They reject spending on education and job training."​

People who promote or support these ideas have been radicalized. What they believe, if they're honestly expressing what they believe, is not grounded in reality. Sometimes when they figure out what they believe is wrong, they cling to it anyway.

Because people won't want to take a chance on him again. Republicans barely lost the House and tied in the Senate. They lost because of Donald John Trump who lost himself to Joe Biden.

Covid was a crisis and he failed. The opinion polls gave him plenty of warning he needed to deal with covid differently.

He could have lowered them six times as much if he had kept his promise not to cut the top rate.

Trump cut the deal. Joe screwed up the exit.

They don't mean much because of who they have involved.

You'd have to give it a context.

So, if my government employer gave me a raise, that would have made them worth supporting?

Not in any serious way.

Trump abandoned the Kurds.

It was due, I suppose.

Trump continued the insane "war on drugs." Give them the stuff if they register and behave themselves.

Keystone was set to deliver Canadian oil.

They were being developed before Trump showed up.

He was part of it.

Not really, but it doesn't matter because Canada has enough oil to supply both countries until we no longer use oil for energy.

No, he didn't. We went over that already.

We've been over thst.

Propaganda Alert!

He hasn't done enough.

Our economic response to covid is causing the inflation. What would you do differently?

Obviously, you don't understand why the supply chains had problems.

Cause and effect?

Sure, they were.

I support school vouchers.

I proposed an ID card that would make it difficult for illegals to find work.

 

Thorpe died no more than three miles from where I was growing up in California.

He wasn't treated well. Is that what you're suggesting?

Reparations? Should black people pay reparations to Native Americans?

China has no moral authority.

 

Does any country or government have moral authority?
Maybe a very few, but that certainly does not include most, including the United States.
Every time I ask an American what ‘again’ stands for, or what moment it refers to on the slogan ‘Make America Great Again’ they clam up or have no answer, which leaves others to fill in the blanks.
The current nasty Chinese government was not established by the will of the people, the slave loving American governments pre 1860 were established by the male population who voted them in.
Ponder that for a while.

 

Nah. Nazis were just hanged. Their families and their names forever tarnished.

 

It's called pride in one's country.

Some consider pride in one's country as fascist but that consideration is plain dopey at best and disingenuous at worst.

 

I regard patriotism as dangerous. My reason is because others decide what my personal patriotism should be like.
Eg conscription.

 

e NEW Iraqi Army.

Despite your denials... Americans know Biden opened the border... WIDE OPEN.

Trump clobbered ISIS. He captured their largest city (Mosul) and capital city (Raqqa). And, oh, by the way... that has nothing to do with the Kurds... apples and space shuttles.

 

Trump clobbered ISIS He captured their largest city (Mosul) and their capital city (Raqqa).Tht has NOTHING to do with the Kurds.

So you want to give bums free drugs and encourage their uselessness? Wow... that's radical even for you average America-hater.

Keystone would have delivered Canadian oil to American refineries (Canada has little refining capacity). It would be then sold, mainly overseas. Remember? We we "energy independent under Trump. In payment we would get oil and/or money. That's how a free market works. We couldnt do that now that Biden has us at the mercy of OPEC again.

Trump got us back in space in American rockets. Those rockets were, indeed, developed commercially. After four failed launches they were just about ready to quit. The fifth launch was a success so Trump authorized a NASA contract to interface with the Space Station. It was Trump that saved their cookies.

Do you understand the "independent" part of "energy independent"? That means independent of Canada too.

Biden opened the border wide open. Your pics are of crossing points. The hundreds of thousands of illegals pouring in don't do so at crossing points. They cross the border illegally in places they hope they won't be detected. Biden has cut manpower to stop them. Here in Texas we WILL stop them. Biden fails again but our Governor will get it done.

Biden's support of racist Critical Race Theory means little here. It has been outlawed in our schools.

Biden hasn't done enough? He hasn't done ANYTHING! Murder and violent crime is SKYROCKETING!

Our "economic response to COVID has caused inflation"? Ok... you have something there... shutting down businesses, requiring medical records for admittance, demanding that folks put something in their bodies they don't want... yup... that sure has caused a lot of it.

Supply chain problems? You mean while ships sit filled with goods off the California coast, California bans all trucks from its roads built after 2011, demands that all drivers be union and all that? Ok

Gas was cheaper under Trump. Then Biden stopped the pipeline, restricted fracking, and increased taxes on oil produced from wells on government lands. Now I hear gas is hitting $6 in New York City. Thank God that here in Texas we have oil everywhere, our own refineries, and ignore Biden's fracking rules in keeping with CA's precedent of ignoring immigration laws. Gas here is still less than $3. Quite a bit less.

People are banned from social media due to their political views under Biden. New networks are cropping up to end that.

November can't come soon ENOUGH!!!!

 

He was send to the gulags in Lawrence, Kansas. While his twin brother died in the gulag of Stroud, Oklahoma.
That should give a clear hint to what extend Native American children were transported around to cleanse out their language, religion and entire culture.

On average, them gulags were terrible places where child mortality was sky high. Parents were mostly never informed when their children died.
The US could not be bothered to even document what went on, so it remains totally unknown how many died. Their graves are not marked.

Why should black people do that, when the government who backed this policy up was full of white males?

You're in denial of what went on in the US to Native Americans. It's downright low to hold that attitude towards the victims.