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  1. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Much more: Federal officials estimate that about ten thousand rioters entered the Capitol grounds, and the Secret Service and FBI have estimated that about 1,200 breached the building.
    You continue to trivialize an important event.
    Never heard of most of the claims you made in the above and some are obviously inaccurate if people made them so I don't think they are in anyway representative of the position of those you call the left.
    We can list a litany of claims made by pro Trump people that are beyond inaccurate
    We can list a litany of claims made by former President Trump that are inaccurate
    Conservatives are now claiming that President Biden has "politicized" this event. It was a political event to begin with and continues to be so.
    I would think that if you truly believe January 6 was not a big deal you would want an investigation find the facts and justify that position, but I am afraid that if the Republicans take control they will end the investigation instead of focusing it on finding the facts
    I notice you didn't refute anything I said so you must feel that was accurate. If that is true than we both should be concerned. I suggest we both support finding the truth about January 6 not support all the distractions that people of any political bent are pushing. If you are willing to do so with an open mind then so am I.
     
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  2. Condor060

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    NO Federal officials have made that claim. EVER

    The claims I posted are undisputed by ANYONE.
    If you could dispute any of them, you would have. How many news articles would you like me to post for each leftist claim I provided?
    Did you think I just made them up?

    We could also list the litany of fake claims by pro Biden people but why don't we go to the sources.
    I will list the top debunked fake news claims by leftist media.
    Then you can follow with any debunked fake news from Fox.
    Heres my list off the top of my head.

    Kavanaugh was an alcoholic high school serial rapist
    The Covington Catholic kids are all white supremist
    Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremist murdering vigilante
    The Cop at the Capital was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher
    Russia Russia Russia klooushion
    All Trump loans are signed by Russian Oligarchs
    Trump was planning to launch a nuclear attack on China
    Trump was going to institute Marshal law to stop from being removed from office
    The riots at the Capital were an armed insurrection
    Trump instituted a Muslim ban
    People locked up at the border are drinking out of toilets
    AOC rushing to the border with photogenic outrage
    Fake impeachment from an anonymous whistle blower of the swamp who never testified.
    Demands for photo identification in voting are Jim Crow laws.
    Jussie Smollet fake story interviews
    Claiming people who use ivermectin are using horse dewormers hoax
    Border agents are using whips on illegal aliens
    If you're vaccinated you won't be hospitalized or die
    Melania Trump was a paid escort
    The unvaccinated are clogging up our hospitals
    Trumps computers are all linked to Russian banks
    The Greta Thunberg flop
    Trumps grandfather was a pimp and a tax evader
    Trumps father was a member of the KKK

    You turn

    So if nobody buys into the Kamala Harris claim that the riots are equal to the attack on Pearl Harbor, then they think its no big deal?

    How about rioters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
    700 people does not an insurrection make. Sorry
    If you think 700 people armed with their deadly flag poles can overturn an election, hold off the US military, defeat the Capital Police, install their own leader, and take over the country, then nothing anyone could post will have any room for conversation.
    This is what the left is promoting.

    You provided nothing to dispute. This was you post that I answered
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was there a single event established to honor the officers killed during the summer attended by all House Repubs that was not attended by Dems? You're going to have to tap dance much faster to avoid answering that question.
     
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    No, there were no fake ceremonies by Republicans used to gin up their bases from false claims.
    But there were fake ceremonies by Democrats ignoring all law enforcement deaths to honor lifetime criminals like George Floyd, attended by Biden and hosted in DC to show how woke they were.
    Only the left would used a dead career criminal, who overdosed on Fentanyl, that held a pregnant woman at gunpoint to rob her, as their hero in the face of the dozens of cops killed because in the riots.
     
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  5. Sirius Black

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    Federal officials estimate that about ten thousand rioters entered the Capitol grounds, and the Secret Service and FBI have estimated that about 1,200 breached the building.
    Arkin, William M. (December 23, 2021). "Exclusive: Classified Documents Reveal the Number of January 6 Protestors". MSN. Newsweek
    Karoun Demirjian (February 25, 2021). "Acting Capitol Police chief: More than 10,000 rioters came onto Capitol grounds and more than 800 breached the building". Washington Post.

    I am through dealing with theories, falsehoods, and word games. Let me know if you ever want to discuss this with an open mind (I now await your personal attack) until then I will only post here to point out what are obvious errors or untruths.
     
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    People showing up to protest were not rioters. The people who walked down to the capital from the speech were not rioters.
    If you want to ignore the debunked claims made by the left that day, feel free to do so.
    You want to dispute the claims I posted, dispute them. Claiming you never heard of such disputes nothing.
    But if you expect anyone to fall on their swords over what the same leftist media claimed about the number of rioters just because they said so, you are wasting your time.

    You are KNOWINGLY conflating information and you know it.

    From your own link
    Six times as many protestors—as many as 120,000—would show up on the Mall on January 6, according to classified numbers still not released by the Secret Service and the FBI but seen by Newsweek.

    According to classified numbers still not released by the Secret Service and the FBI but seen by Newsweek.? So Newsweek is now a Secret Service/FBI insider reviewing classified documents? They are now provided classified information so they can report classified information?
    And you believe that?

    But there is still not an official estimate, nor have any of the Congressional committees or task forces offered a number. Nor is there a clear number of how many people actually entered the Capitol, or tried to get in.
    And from that statement you determined that 10,000 rioters went to the capital?
    Is everyone who attended the rally now rioters? This is what your claiming?

    You realize there are literally THOUSANDS of videos on Youtube covering the entire riot. Right?
     
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    Were they blocking traffic doing something else that interrupted free movement? If so then a little capsaicin may be a good tool to move them along. The image doesn't address the context.
     
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    That is a "faked BLM picture". BLM does NOT engage in violence and destruction and theft. But the racist right sure does love to make it look like they do, and we all know why.
     
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    That's a poor and failing cover. The way it's given is the very clear tipoff. You're fooling no one.
     
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    The way its given? o_O Perhaps you can demonstrate for the rest of us how the OK sign is done differently.
     
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