You’ll need Vaccination papers to go outside in DC

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  1. Thedimon

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    Democrats have been claiming for the past 10-20 years that blacks are too stupid to get an ID.
    Now D’s want you to show papers when you go to a restaurant or a gym.
    If one were to follow their logic, then demands for medical papers is as racist as demands for a voter ID.
     
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    Do you own a gun, and do you live in a state that requires an ID to own it?
    When I lived in Illinois I had FOID (firearm owner ID) card. When I was obtaining it, my background was investigated by Illinois police and the record was ran against FBI database as well.
    I also happens to have 2 advanced degrees and have attended college and had my college ID as well. To obtain that ID my background was never investigated.
    So, pound for pound, an FOID is a much more serious document compared to a college ID and that’s why I could use it as a secondary ID in every situation I needed it.
     
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    My citizenship is on my drivers license......

    Foreign Students still get drivers licenses also.
     
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    Yes, I own a gun. My permit just identifies me and my address. Just like a drivers license does. The same as a college ID.

    ALL of the above IDs are state issued
     
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    Nope!
    My college ID was issued by college, not state. Maybe in your state it is, but it’s not the case for all states.
     
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    And who runs the colleges, or sets the rules for those colleges via their grants and laws ?

    Ill get that for you, The State Board of Regents
     
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    The left will do anything to get Trump supporters. Who gives a crap about all of those poor who don't have ID's?
     
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    There is no indicator of citizenship on my Drivers License.

    But we were discussing College IDs.
     
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    Again.....why is one allowed for voter ID and the other not ?
     
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    Fascism comes to the former state for lovers...

    It'll last exactly 4 years.... like the cheap banana in the White House last time...
     
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    They do not meet the standards for legal identification. And they are not meant to. Period.

    Wrong again. A gun permit is practically a gold-standard legal identification based on the extreme vetting required to get one.

    But you still haven't answered my question: what exactly are you arguing here?
     
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    Honest question: Why ?

    What is different about those ID's if they are vetted and requie the same information ?


    Huh ? In my state you fill out a form and as long as you dont have a felony conviction you are given the permit ? What "extreme vetting" are you referring to ?

    Why is a college ID not acceptable form to vote, and yet a gun permit is.
     
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    You forgot the "WAAAACISM!!" line.

    Then again, any cred Virginia Dems mistakenly thought they had went up in flames after they voted for this assclown:

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    Whose election will disgrace our fair Commonwealth nevermore....

    Well, Glenn can't serve consecutive terms, so you can look forward to this woman being your next governor:

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    And what an upgrade at lieutenant governor she's gonna be from serial rapist Justin "F*ck That B*tch!" Fairfax.

    Good riddance to bad Democrat rubbish....
     
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    The mandates are highly profitable for Pfizer whose operating profit margins just went over 30%. At this point, pharmaceutical executives are running our government, not politicians. I would love to see the payoffs being received by the Democrat fascists implementing Big Pharma orders. Can you imagine being paid millions by unaccountable corporations in order to turn the guns of state on your own citizens to force them to inject a product with no liability protection into their bodies...... and still have the balls to pretend that you are a good and moral person?

    The lunatic Democrats are pretending that Kroger is the source of the skyrocketing inflation. Kroger..... the company that has seen it operating profit margin drop from 2.2% to less than 1.9% through the course of this virus. It has nothing to do with the Democrats shutting down the economy and then passing three massive spending bills that pumped trillions into the money supply. I can't imagine how any rational person can witness this and not come to conclusion that the Democrats want to burn the country to the ground.
     
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    College ID's are issued without any type of proof of citizenship, only requirement is paying tuition.

    Driver's license requires proof of identity.... birth certificate and/or social security number.

    'Collect proof of your identity, including birth certificate, passport, former identification card, Social Security card or any other document required by your particular state.'
     
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    Because there is already a standard for legal identification - for most people it is a driver license or a state ID card. The college ID exists for the sole purpose of identifying the holder as a member of a student body. Additionally it is HIGHLY unlikely that a person who has made it into college will not have one of the legal forms of ID. The overwhelming majority of eligible voters already have an acceptable legal ID for the purposes of voting. Any eligible voter who does not have one should be provided with one at no cost.

    This would only be applicable if the college ID is issued by the same state agency that issues state IDs. You are talking about a bureaucratic nightmare if every college ID needs to be issued by the state ID authorities. College IDs are made so you can eat in the cafeteria, enter certain campus events, etc.. By design, it does not need to be rigorously vetted. And again, find me a college student without a DL or a state ID. That is a very very rare person.

    Then consider there could be hundreds of colleges in a given state - this would create another logistical nightmare as poll workers would have to be familair with the design and feel of hundreds of IDs, rather than just a handful. There is no reason at all to accept student IDs for the purposes of voting.

    BS. You are fingerprinted, investigated by the FBI at the minimum, along with your SSN. Far more stringent than any other civilian ID.
    But what argument are you trying to make? Why is this important?
     
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    I attended three different colleges, two undergrad one grad school - never once did my student ID list my address. Why do you just make **** up? Never mind we all know why.
     
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    And I can attest to the people living on a fixed income are getting hammered by merely heating their houses. My mother just got a massive bill for the month of December to which Colorado has been the warmest in years.
     
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    College ID are not given without all of that information. Its ALL part of your transcript and application to the institution. Thats just a fact
     
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    "highly unlikely" ? Its a FACT that thats not true. You apply to an institution for acceptance. That acceptance requires the same rigorous research and proof of citizenship. You cannot get into an institution of higher learning without an education transcript that would have all of the required information and have been vetted.


    College IDs are the purveyance of the boards of reagents in every state. Those boards are run by, and appointed by state governments

    No, they are all controlled by the board of regents in each state. They are all based on the same criteria


    Thats beyond a red herring. The only way you can be denied the ability to purchase a gun is if you are a felon, or under felony indictment.


    Its simple. They are allowing specific ID based on the the general demographic of who would carry that type of ID.

    Gun Permit are a much higher conservative demographic

    Colleges ID are a much higher liberal demographic
     
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    Well, kind of. A recent study found the efficacy of two doses of the mRNA vaccines went to essentially zero at 6 months.

    FOLLOW THE SCIENCE: The feds’ booster push shows public-health decisions aren’t data-driven.
    Zero?
     
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    Uh, read it again, please. I said it is highly unlikely that a person who makes it into college would not have a driver license or state ID card.

    Ignoring that there are private colleges, boards of regents exist to manage educational institutions, NOT to be expert at creating legal IDs.

    Not the point. Each college has its own ID. A poll worker who currently needs to be familiar with a handful of IDs will have to be familiar with dozens or maybe a hundred. And then again, private colleges... What about private colleges?

    Handgun permit is for concealed carry, not for purchase, "Mr. NRA card." What color is the sky in your world?

    Off topic, but since you brought up another factual inaccuracy, there are 14 disqualifications under ATF Form 4473 to legally purchase a firearm.

    Your argument? It certainly is.

    BS. Texas accepts DL, State ID, passport, military ID, handgun license. citizenship certificate, and something called an Election Identification certificate - SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE ID FOR VOTING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

    There are seven valid forms of ID accepted to vote in Texas. Your argument is a joke.
     
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    Mine were issued on the spot by a clerk.
    I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing - an ID for gun ownership is scrutinized a heck of a lot more than an ID from college.
    Claiming they are the same is denying reality.
     
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    In Illinois (my basis for comparison), CC permits are scrutinized even more than the FOID card. I’m not even talking about a college ID.
    Your argument is wrong, plain and simple.
     
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    Do you know whats in your transcript ?
     

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