Well, it's finally happened, Justice Dept handed down Seditious Conspiracy indictments

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  1. Marine1

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    One thing I have discovered following politics is that we have some very smart people out there running our country that hasn't got an ounce of common sense. I'm not sure if Trump has much of either the way he talks and acts. But I am sure he has some advisors out there talking to him to get his mind where it should be. But Trump sure isn't alone. Listening to the things the other side says and wants to do, shows me there is a lot of people representing us that is just like Trump. They do and want some of the dumbest things I can't believe they have a brain in their head or a lick of common sense. They are smart like Trump in one way and dumb as a rock in common sense. Usually most don't have both, it's one or the other. The way we cling to a Party is the next bad thing. It prevents us from seeing both sides. That's what so hard to get the right things done.
     
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    Would that you would pick the truth which given that googles algorithms shove the true stuff several pages down and let leftist BS float to the top would require you to do a lot more digging than most people are willing to do.
     
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    Well that would certainly cover the 578 other riots that took place last summer.
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    @Capt Nice could have been. Hillary failed to protect our people in Benghazi and Trump failed to protect our Capitol when it was under attack by rioters. Were some of the Capitol rioters actually insurrectionists? Probably.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    I sincerely doubt a very careful fellow like Garland is going to prosecute based on how you are framing it. Clearly, he has the goods on these folks, and I bet they are ******** in their camouflage.

    Of course Trump is responsible. Both minority leaders of the house and senate said so, as well.
     
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    Well maybe they have them on tape saying.... "I just don't know why there's not uprisings at the Capitol and maybe there will be".....:rolleyes:
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump was permanently separating parents from children for a misdemeanor.

    Her response was emotive, rage at the prospect of such a thing.

    For lawds sakes, can you not make that distinction? Why such such an obvious thing require twisting?

    No, your accusing me of twisting is the twisting.

    You are going to accuse her of inciting violence on such skant evidence, and ignore Trump, who has been accusing democrats of stealing the election, over and over and over and over and over again, and still doing it, where he fomented a juggernaut of RAGE in his fans?

    Do you not see the disparity?

    No, you say the following out loud:

    Telling 74 million americans, for over a year, week after week, at every rally, on every appearance on television, that the only way democrats can win is to rig the election, before any ballot was ever cast, that democrats are stealing the election, that they are committing fraud, that they intend on destroying America,, a narrative so wrong, so untruthful, a heinous rhetoric to a degree of which was hitherto unheard of by any candidate in history, It created the mantra, the welling anger, the volcanic juggernaut that erupted on Jan 6, So it is that Trump's continuous incendiary acts, comments, mentions, speeches, on 1/6, and back covering over a period of many months, of which the predominant message was 'democrats stole the election' and that lie began before the first ballot was cast, inculcated in the minds and hearts of his follows long and hard, to such an extent, that it caused a welling up of what can rightfully be characterized as a juggernaut of rage, erupting in volcanic fashion on 1/6, resulting in several deaths and millions of worth of property damaged, some property stolen, and trespassing of the offices of congresspersons and senators and the terrorizing of persons thereby, and the delay of several hours of the constitutional proceedings.
     
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    Tangential rant, off point.
     
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    Defense against what? Congress?

    You are not making sense.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    lazy post, too short. as such, a non argument.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are other search engines, Garyd.

    find one you like.
     
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    No, I suspect that the for the DOJ to charge someone with 'seditious conspiracy', it's a charge reserved for a more weighty, more serious act. Breaking down a city hall door doesn't really do it, but an attack on the seat of democracy, our capitol, that would do it.

    so, no.
     
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    If you don't have a problem with the other one I find your problem with Trump hard to take seriously.

    Regardless of her motivation and how you feel about it she was literally calling for uprisings.

    If you wanted people to think you're umbridge is genuine you would have a problem with both of those scenarios.

    As it is you just come off as very partisan and turning a blind eye.
     
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    Then are you suggesting that every riot should be treated the same way?
    Not only were the rioters rioting, they were attempting to subvert the constitution and the peaceful handover of power gained by the democratic (and in this case, legally supported) process which was an attack on the foundations of your democracy and if allowed to happen, opens the way for coups and illegal seizure of power.

    I doubt if any other riot comes close to the monumental importance of this.
     
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    Government brutality against protesters, as one potential.
     
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    Of course they have the goods on what ever small club they chose out of the one's our Spook services were monitoriing - someone in the clubhouse saying how they believe armed insurrection was justified.

    What do you mean "how you are framing it" It's not how I'm framing it .. it is how your linked framed it .. go back and read .. folks don't have to have done anything (which they didn't) -- didn't have to act on the idea .. just had to have the "bad thought"

    Trump is responsible for what .. the Bad thoughts in the mind some member of some backwoods club - thoughts never acted upon ?

    This is twisted Gestapo logic - going around policing bad thoughts .. attributing those thoughts to people who are not even members of the club .. some guilt by association thing. Disturbing
     
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    Good question – ‘ and what about BLM/Atifa riots’?

    It reminds me a popular joke told in communists countries:
    Soviet Union announced it created the most advanced computer in world which can answer all questions.
    Delegation of scientist from the US comes to Moscow to test this claim. They ask all most difficult question and the computer have perfect concise answer. They almost gave up, and they decided to ask the last question: why in the Soviet Union there is no enough meat in the stores? Computer thinks, thinks and prints the following answer: ‘and in the US you discriminate Blacks’.
     
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    Agree! The question is if Jan 6 was a sedition in defense of liberty or in defense of a big, cry baby.
     
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    Well it would be hard to prove it was in defense of liberty since it challenged every free vote cast in the election.
     
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    You are right, Republicans loves to write about Blm and Antifa demonstration and Democrats loves to write about racist cops and KKK crimes, it is a fact.
    The other fact is that in the last 200 years we had maybe thousands violent demonstrations, maybe thousands racist cops, maybe thousands KKK crimes and only one violent attempt to prevent election of the US president.
     
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    Yes, technically it was an attempt to force congress to elect a loser as a president of the US – violation of the Constitution, but this is very interesting case. In our law we have ‘not guilty by reason of insanity’, maybe we need to add to our law ‘not guilty by reason of being stupid and gullible’?
    Who was responsible for spreading this lie? Not only President Trump, also Rudi Giuliani and even some Senators, Congressmen and Congresswomen.
     
  22. ShadowX

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    So the **** what? According to you all he was PLANNING A VIOLENT TAKEOVER OF THE US GOVERNMENT... are you under the impression that he didn’t think he would get any flak for it???
     
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    I agree completely, in both that they were treated differently and that it's wrong to do it that way.
     
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    I doubt that the people who were in that building had any kind of solid plan to do any of the insurrectionist things that are being attributed to them. It was a collection of idiots who had been instigated and antagonized by a larger idiot for 2 months. Why do you think they were stealing things and taking selfies? These weren't revolutionaries, they were just morons.

    And yes, every rioter should be treated the same, as in they should have the book thrown at them.
     
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    This is how a reasonable person who dislikes trump would view Jan 6. The Libs should take note.
     
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