Well, it's finally happened, Justice Dept handed down Seditious Conspiracy indictments

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  1. modernpaladin

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    Im not implying anything. Im just providing one of the many justifications for people to be armed and prepared for a fight outside your tunnel vision focus of overthrowing the govt.
     
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    When Thomas Caldwell orders the mass killing of people, you be sure to let us know.
    Ask for old blue cuz I'll be holdin my breath.
    What a ridiculous post
     
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    Which was the very same declaration about the Russia hoax, and the Kavanaugh hoax, and the Covington Catholic hoax, and the PTA parents being Domestic Terrorist hoax and we all found out how those turned out.

    Those indictments are just for the left to drool on. They are impossible to make and anyone who is represented by an attorney is laughing at such notions.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You asserted google was a 'thought-terminating cliché' ( or rather, I referred to them and you wrote that google was one, as well )

    From that, the only logical inference is that you are saying all of Google's returns are of no value.
     
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    non argument.

    no reply
     
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    They only have to keep it alive until after the election....hopefully the 2024 election... this will be their battle cry along with with covid... to any and all Biden screw ups... it is all they've got...

    Americans still behind Taliban lines.... they cry Jan. 6
    Covid deaths under Biden....they cry Jan. 6
    Daddy takes showers with Ashley... they cry Jan. 6
    Joe participated in a coup to overthrow a duly elected president........ they cry Jan. 6
    Joe invited infected illegal invaders and then shipped them throughout America... they cry Jan. 6
    Joe stops the wall on the border but has the tax payer build one around his house... they cry Jan. 6

    etc..
     
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    Stop editing my posts...

    Don't get off into the weeds.... Yes legally supported... Trump was a duly elected president elected by the people.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

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    What they didn't accomplish doesn't exonerate them.

    What they believed they could do, wanted to, planned to do, their emails that lay it all out, that is relevant and will probably be what actually has a legal bearing on their case.
    What do you mean 'militias have been discredited'?
     
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    I didn't say it exonerated them. My point is it wasn't dangerous to the Republic if you counted them up and segregated out the ones who were just there to party and walked out when the Capitol police told them to. The guy with horns was a ridiculous figure. He couldn't stop a lemonade stand, never mind a whole country. What kind of insurrection is that? Everyone is acting like it was the Cuban missile crisis.

    The militias never enjoyed wide support among normal conservatives. They were just weirdos who met in the woods and played army. They still are. Now we conservatives are conscious of them and I, at least, am embarrassed and will be watching them. But I'll bet anyone here $100 that they do not materialize and start another riot in 2024 if the event Trump runs and loses again. His "rigged election" claims won't sail a second time.

    There will always be fringe elements, of course. The riot and Trump's role was denounced by the Republican leadership. Some remained silent, but NONE said "Way to go!"

    I really wish I knew who was running in 2024. This is the first time in my life when I haven't had the slightest idea. I think Chris Christie wants to run. He'd beat Kamala Harris or Bernie or Hillary.

    But he would not beat Michelle Obama. Nor would Mike Pence.
     
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    False comparisons.

    No democrat did anything which equaled the following:

    Telling 74 million americans, for over a year, week after week, at every rally, on every appearance on television, that the only way democrats can win is to rig the election, before any ballot was ever cast, that democrats are stealing the election, that they are committing fraud, that they intend on destroying America, a narrative so wrong, so untruthful, a heinous rhetoric to a degree of which was hitherto unheard of by any candidate in history, It created the mantra, the welling anger, the volcanic juggernaut that erupted on Jan 6, a directed mission to 'stop the steal' and resulted in millions in damage and 5 - 7 deaths.
    Trump's continuous incendiary acts, comments, mentions, speeches, on 1/6, and back covering over a period of many months, of which the predominant message was 'democrats stole the election' and that lie began before the first ballot was cast, inculcated in the minds and hearts of his follows long and hard, to such an extent, that it caused a welling up of what can rightfully be characterized as a juggernaut of rage, erupting in volcanic fashion on 1/6, resulting in several deaths and millions of worth of property damaged, some property stolen, and trespassing of the offices of congresspersons and senators and the terrorizing of persons thereby, and the delay of several hours of the constitutional proceedings.
     
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    "IT" AbsaByGodLutely was dangerous to the republic. Apparently you don't know about "contingent elections"; IF "they" could have stopped the Certification of EC votes long enough for Benedict Donald to declare marshal law and force a Contingent election then tRump would have won because there are more red States than blue States; in a "Contingent Election the Presidency is decided by a roll call vote of each state and each State gets one vote, all it takes is a simple majority. So, yes, it was every bit and more dangerous to OUR Republic as the Cuban missile crisis or any other crisis this Nation has ever faced.

    I'll take that bet because, right now, critical red states are trying to give their legislatures the power to throw out the popular vote and choose the winning candidate themselves. So, even if tRump loses again he very well could become president ... again.

    ON January 6/7 the "Republican Leadership did denounce the insurrection but ever since then they have been recanting their denunciation AND yelling "Way to go" by supporting a praising Donald Judas tRump every chance they get or can create.

    Yes, now that you mention it, IF, Mrs. Obama were to run I think she would run away with the popular vote AND the EC. But, then those red States I mentioned could very well throw out that vote and choose Donald Judas tRump anyway.

    These ARE times that try men's souls, we all must step up and vote and demand our VOTE is counted fairly. The time for the summer soldier and sunshine patriot HAS long past.
     
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    Let me see if I understand you, correctly.

    Are you saying there are circumstances where rebelling against the government is justified?

    Is that what you are saying?
     
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    Maybe. But credibility is in question.
     
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    i'm under the impression that trump thought he had people who could handle "flak" with "extreme prejudice." he certainly knew who his "tough guys" were and what they were capable of doing.
     
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    Yes, we all read the indictments. Which is why the same people are asking, why the hell are you charging a senior citizen who never entered the capital, planned the riot, fought with the police, or rioted.

    Which means if they just blanket charged everyone with the same charges, the indictments are worthless. You have to make every count in the indictment for every single person or the judge will be forced by the defendant attorneys to dismiss the cases.

    Indictments are not a net you can throw. They are required by law to be very precise in their charges and EVERY count in those indictments have to be made before a jury can convene for a guilty or not guilty vote.

    So if they were dumb enough to indict everyone with the exact same charges, very few (if any) will see convictions.
     
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    My two cents worth....
    But this is a public trial.... this is a fake committee... the DOJ will keep the indictments open for show until after the election.... smoke and mirrors..... the DOJ don't want to convict anyone right now ....... the left will have this to ride through the election.... if they are lucky even the 2024 election..... they will "what if " us to death...

    They have nothing else.... the Covid deaths, vaccine mandates, Americans left behind in Afghanistan, infected illegals invaders being bused all over America.... daddy Joe showering with his daughter...dope head Hunter shady deals.....they have the media and big tech to help cover it up...
     
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    Its the same magic show we saw with The Russia hoax, The Kavanaugh hoax, The Covington Catholic kids hoax, and on and on and on
     
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    Exactly.... they just throw crap up against the wall ..... and the media feeds it right into the public... So Bob the plumber throws a cup of coffee down his gullet as he catches CNN going out the door to work and all he hears is the fake CNN garbage.... public trial is the Democrats best friend...
     
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    Not at the time of the riot.
    I edit when the rest of the post is irrelevant to my point. I do NOT remove context.
     
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    You're the one equating civil defense with rebelling against the govt ...but since you asked, I'd say rebellion would be justifiable in the case of, say, the Nazi's Night of the Long Knives, Stalin's Great Purge, the Khmer Rouge's Killing Fields or similar. Of course, in order to effectively resist something like that, one would need to be prepared and organized to do so before it actually happened.
     
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    So then why didn’t he rely on people with firearms to do it?
     
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    Is it true that after his warming up his troops on Jan. 6, he went back to the White House and watched the whole thing on TV?
     
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    there were firearms in the crow\d. the elmer guy bought $17k in firearms and ammunition en route to dc. and the pipe bombs.
     
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    FAKE NEWS our brave president is a FIGHTER. HE personally led the antifa/blm and their deep state provocateurs on their tour of the capital he mighy have hasd sex with AOC but "she's not my type" explained the nation's alpha male.
     

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